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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: stevet340]
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" Tell this to Indy as they rake in the $$$$. "
W-5 heads are hard core race heads, Indy heads are for street monkeys...
just my 
Puhleeze. Check out a set of 245RP's. lol
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: Hot 340]
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08/07/11 10:13 AM
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" Tell this to Indy as they rake in the $$$$. "
Puhleeze. Check out a set of 245RP's. lol
I have checked out the indy heads, I do every year at the nats, thats the only place I have ever seen a set, at their display tent. I would like to know how many sets they really have sold??? I go to quite a few different tracks and have never seen or heard of anyone in this part of the country ever running a set, I'm sure there are guys out there that do, and I would love to see them on a car, let alone a hard running car, but like my first post, it is hard for most guys justify the added expense of rockers, intake, machine work, etc, etc, etc, to go have fun at their local track. Even the highly touted edelbrock heads take special machine work and porting to make them run half decent. Special intake rockers, pushrod tubes, oiling mods, etc, etc, etc...
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: stevet340]
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08/07/11 10:34 AM
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" Tell this to Indy as they rake in the $$$$. "
Puhleeze. Check out a set of 245RP's. lol
I have checked out the indy heads, I do every year at the nats, thats the only place I have ever seen a set, at their display tent. I would like to know how many sets they really have sold??? I go to quite a few different tracks and have never seen or heard of anyone in this part of the country ever running a set, I'm sure there are guys out there that do, and I would love to see them on a car, let alone a hard running car, but like my first post, it is hard for most guys justify the added expense of rockers, intake, machine work, etc, etc, etc, to go have fun at their local track. Even the highly touted edelbrock heads take special machine work and porting to make them run half decent. Special intake rockers, pushrod tubes, oiling mods, etc, etc, etc...
Are you saying the W5s dont???
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: stevet340]
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08/07/11 10:38 AM
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Even the highly touted edelbrock heads take special machine work and porting to make them run half decent. Special intake rockers, pushrod tubes, oiling mods, etc, etc, etc...
Wow.....no one told me about the special rockers, pushrod tubes or oiling mods needed for my Edelbrocks. Mine have standard la rockers, no pushrod tubes or oiling mods, they are ported. Then again mine is not a real race car because I drive it on the street too. It does run 6.57 in the 1/8 though on pump 93 at 3260#.
What small block do you have?
BTW W5 use offset intake rockers.
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: stevet340]
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08/07/11 11:10 AM
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The car has a 360ci stroked to 408ci with INDY 360-2 heads,flow 326cfm @.700 int.,238cfm @.750exh.(265cfm with flow pipe).solid roller with gross lifts int.727,exh.697,dur.@.050 int.271.83, exh 291.59. 13:5.1 comp..904 flite with brake,stock 2.45 first ratio, and 6200 conv.dana-60 4.88 gears,33x14x15 slicks,car weighs 2680 with driver,ladder susp. leave on a 4200 chip,shift [Email]1st@7000[/Email] 2nd 7500, crosses @8000.SV-1 110mm Pro- systems carb.N.A.
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: stevet340]
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08/07/11 02:23 PM
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" Tell this to Indy as they rake in the $$$$. "
Puhleeze. Check out a set of 245RP's. lol
I have checked out the indy heads, I do every year at the nats, thats the only place I have ever seen a set, at their display tent. I would like to know how many sets they really have sold??? I go to quite a few different tracks and have never seen or heard of anyone in this part of the country ever running a set, I'm sure there are guys out there that do, and I would love to see them on a car, let alone a hard running car, but like my first post, it is hard for most guys justify the added expense of rockers, intake, machine work, etc, etc, etc, to go have fun at their local track. Even the highly touted edelbrock heads take special machine work and porting to make them run half decent. Special intake rockers, pushrod tubes, oiling mods, etc, etc, etc...
When I first got my W5's there wasn't anyone around here running them either. In fact I've only ever seen 3 other cars with them in the southeast. Granted I don't get around a lot but still just the lack of known usage doesn't mean anything. Let's face it there just aren't a lot of people drag racing a SBM anywhere when you compare it to a SBC, BBC , SBF, or even a BBM.
I love my W5's and wouldn't mind having another set but there are other options and if I build another engine it will be a 48* block anyway so there are other options.
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: Hughes]
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08/07/11 07:23 PM
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We have been working with Edelbrock for quite a while on a new small block Chrysler "Victor" head. We should have a prototype at our shop this week to get some preliminary flow numbers etc... You can expect some type of announcement (maybe even the actual release of the head) from Edelbrock around the P.R.I. show this December. From what we can tell this head is going to support well over 700HP. You guys are right about needing a head like this. We can't wait to get our hands on it!
Kevin @ Hughes Engines, inc.
Well that is exciting news! I emailed edelbrock about doing a victor head about 3 years ago. The response wasn't too exciting at that time, but the door sure wasn't shut on it. I think at that time they were still busy with a couple other heads they were releasing, one being the victor 440.
So, is this head going to use some sort of W2 valvetrain? Or will it be unique like the 440 victor was?
Thanks for sharing!
-Kenny
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
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08/07/11 10:12 PM
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We have been working with Edelbrock for quite a while on a new small block Chrysler "Victor" head. We should have a prototype at our shop this week to get some preliminary flow numbers etc... You can expect some type of announcement (maybe even the actual release of the head) from Edelbrock around the P.R.I. show this December. From what we can tell this head is going to support well over 700HP. You guys are right about needing a head like this. We can't wait to get our hands on it!
Kevin @ Hughes Engines, inc.
 IF their actually goimg to do this but I won't be holding my breath.
The way the economy is headed I THINK you will see a HUGE downgrade.
Beside IMO the INDY 360 series is already up to the task. Matt
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
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We have been working with Edelbrock for quite a while on a new small block Chrysler "Victor" head. We should have a prototype at our shop this week to get some preliminary flow numbers etc... You can expect some type of announcement (maybe even the actual release of the head) from Edelbrock around the P.R.I. show this December. From what we can tell this head is going to support well over 700HP. You guys are right about needing a head like this. We can't wait to get our hands on it!
Kevin @ Hughes Engines, inc.
IF their actually goimg to do this but I won't be holding my breath.
The way the economy is headed I THINK you will see a HUGE downgrade.
Beside IMO the INDY 360 series is already up to the task. Matt
Kinda what I was thinking. Do we really need another straight valve 300~340 cfm head?
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: dusturbd340W5]
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08/08/11 12:02 AM
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I wouldn't be putting myself into debt to produce them, I really doubt I would re-coup my money over 5 years. An updated W8 might be a different story.
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
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08/08/11 12:47 AM
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If they did what I hope they did, edelbrock should "potentially" have as good of a head as Indy at a lower cost. This is WHY we need more cylinder heads...indy's heads are ridiculously priced for what you get. They won't make any power unless they've been ported.
CFM is a POOR way to rate a cylinder head alone.
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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08/08/11 02:20 PM
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If they did what I hope they did, edelbrock should "potentially" have as good of a head as Indy at a lower cost. This is WHY we need more cylinder heads...indy's heads are ridiculously priced for what you get. They won't make any power unless they've been ported.
CFM is a POOR way to rate a cylinder head alone.
I agree with ya 100%!! I would assume it is a similar design to the Indy and W5 stuff, since this has been brought up in a W5 thread. Hopefully it is a raised port head that you can get a decent size port and CSA into!
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Re: Anyone Interested In W5 Mopar Heads Please Read
[Re: Hot 340]
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08/09/11 09:28 AM
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I guess it all depends on what you want to do. If you want to sell heads or buy a set of Indy~ish heads, then yes, the Victors will help the market in that reguard. But performance wise its beating a dead horse. I would love to see a updated 8 as mentioned, or a spayed valve head that didnt involve those funky dry sump short deck r5's with all the adapters or oddball cams. An SB2 head to slam on a wet sump tall 48 would be the shnizzle and a new open door. I know its only a dream.
But a very nice dream. 
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