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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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I don't know if this is correct or not, but it's the one that came with my Barracuda. There were 3 different rods. Maybe we can add some lenghts to the parts. 2964744 - Standard Tire Spare 10.5" 2964999 - Space saver (23 & 29) 6.5" 3444581 - Space Saver (27 - Convertible - All Challengers) 9.5" 
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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beepbeep-I have the same pic in my manual-so I guess my car probably came w/14's originally, my stud sounds like the one K5cuda was talking about-about 10" long and a curve at the base-don't recall seeing these but haven't been looking either-and if my car got 14's-it wouldn't have been a space saver spare-this thread got me thinking-Joe
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Are the rims backspacing different for a mid 72 & up spacesaver? I tried to put all my stuff in with the tire right side up and I can barely start the threads and my spare stud is exactly 6" long.
I also need to see pictures of the jack and iron and how they fit in with the spring etc.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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K5CUDA,
Can you post a picture of your spare? What size tire and are there any markings near the valve stem?
My digi camera's battery is dead right now or I would have already done it. I can go look on the rim later and get the numbers. Just seemed odd that beep's tire looks like it fits much better and the only thing I can think of would be a slight difference in backspacing perhaps.
Do you have pictures of the jack assy. and iron hooked up? I can't seem to find any that show the original stuff.
Okay, here are all the numbers:
Goodyear G78-15
DOT seems to be CUO 038
M87 Stamped between the stud holes
M87 and 9 to the left of the stem and an 8 to the right of the stem.
369917 stamped in the rim above the stem.
Let me guess.. It's probably off of a 1975 gremlin or someting like that would be my luck.. I was told it was out of a mid 70's volare or aspen.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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You have a large problem. The spare is probably for a GM or Ford product. Does the wheel bolt up to your car?
Goodyear G78-15 - Should be F78-14
DOT seems to be CUO 038
M87 Stamped between the stud holes - 1977 wheel
M87 and 9 to the left of the stem and an 8 to the right of the stem. - Sept 8, 1977 build date
369917 stamped in the rim above the stem. Probably a GM part number.
Now I am ticked off! I can't EVER get a break but this was my error and should have known this stuff before I bought it. This guy is a BIG mopar guy and I took his word for it. I obviously didn't try to put it on the car and could easily check the bolt circle. I'll do that in a little bit. I am sure it'll be 4 3/4 probably.. LOL
Gonna make a phone call in the morning!
Okay you were right, the part number was 3699117 and there is a chrysler insignia to the right of the 8 on the rim so it is chrysler and does appear to be 4.5" bolt circle I believe.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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I wonder if it is from a 78 Super Coupe? If so, you should be able to get your money out of it.
If so, how much $ are you talking about? I paid 100 for the tire/rim and bottle/bracket.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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I don't have a clue as to what it's worth. I would post that question on the General board. Those guys love to play WhatsItWorth.
I guess I need to find out if that's what it's for or not. I guess for now I'll keep it until I can replace it.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Okay, here are all the numbers:
Goodyear G78-15
DOT seems to be CUO 038
M87 Stamped between the stud holes
M87 and 9 to the left of the stem and an 8 to the right of the stem.
369917 stamped in the rim above the stem.
I was told it was out of a mid 70's volare or aspen.
The 250 wheel with a F78-14 GOODYEAR tire was used on the Aspen/Volare. What you have was used on the B Body. Cordoba, Magnum, Charger etc...
What I have = Worthless
Gonna make the call this morning and see if I can get my $ back. Wish me luck.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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07/24/06 10:38 AM
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Here is a pic of a stud for the space saver spare. It is about 6 1/2 inches long. The one for my convert is longer, about 7 inches. Hope this helps you.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Here is a pic of the correct space saver wheel. It is a 14x5.5 with no part number and a sixth hole across from the valve stem. These wheels were made by kelsey-hayes. The correct tires were bf goodrich(7.35,7.75x14 early 70) f 78 14.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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I'm trying to determine if my car came with 14's or 15's from the factory....your note above implies I would have had 14's? Was there a 15" space saver?
e bodies never came with 15" space saver spares. The 15" space savers came in later and larger cars like the cordoba. They were g 78 15 goodyears.The f 78 14 goodyears came in aspen and volares.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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07/24/06 05:32 PM
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Here is the one for the standard spare tire in an e body. This was in my 71 cuda but I am going to put a space saver in it.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Thanks to js27vob, we now have a picture of each of the rods. If anyone has any comments on the rods, speak up. I would like verification if possible. Thanks 2964999 - Space saver (23 & 29) 6.5" 3444581 - Space Saver (27 - Convertible - All Challengers) 9.5" 2964744 - Standard Tire Spare 10.5" Bend at Bottom??? 
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Never seen a bent rod on a '70
Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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fwiw, I only saw those bent ones in 72-4 challengers that I saw at the junkyard. Also, my spare stud is exactly 6" long so that's strange that this one is longer @ 6.5". Multiple AVL's I guess which would not be uncommon. I thought someone else chimed in earlier that theirs was 6" also. I think we may have a case of spare stud envy going on here?  Eric, if you look at the other post on space saver stuff you'll see that I ended up with the 15" SS without realizing it. It will fit on the 6" stud but just barely. At this point I am just gonna live with it and get another as time permits.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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Gentlemen,
Also in conclusion let me ask a question. So if Eric and I both have the 6" or 6.5" stud length then this should ensure that our cars officially did come with 15" rims being either steel or rallye? I don't have my broadcast sheet but I was thinking one of the previous owners did tell me that it had rallye wheels on it when he bought it as the second owner. Is this safe to assume?
'70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone)
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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I think we may have a case of spare stud envy going on here?
So far only js27vob and myself have been secure enough in our studlyness to actually post pictures of our studs with rulers. It may simply be a man thing. It all depends on where you start and where you end your measurement. In this case they were measured from the very bottom to the end of the tip. 
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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07/24/06 11:54 PM
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Gentlemen,
Also in conclusion let me ask a question. So if Eric and I both have the 6" or 6.5" stud length then this should ensure that our cars officially did come with 15" rims being either steel or rallye? I don't have my broadcast sheet but I was thinking one of the previous owners did tell me that it had rallye wheels on it when he bought it as the second owner. Is this safe to assume?
You could have a space saver spare with either 14" or 15" wheels, same with the standard spare tire.If you have 15" ralleys then use them. They fill in the wheel well better anyway and look better too.
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Re: 70 Cuda spare tire stud
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07/25/06 12:33 AM
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K5Cuda I figured by now you would have learned that nothing can be assumed when it comes to a 36 year old car. Without a broadcast sheet and a new fender tag, your car can have any option you want.
A broadcast sheet can be either a blessing or a curse. If it says your car had every available option and the car is all there, then it is a blessing. If you bought it as a rolling shell and now you have to pay top dollar for all those options, then it is a curse.
BTW - I assumed that I had the correct stud for my car, until I found out through this thread that I didn't. The stud I displayed, 9 1/2" was in the trunk of my 70 Cuda. I have the broadcast sheet for my car and it was coded for a spacesaver spare. Now I can assume that sometime in it's dimly lit past, one of the previous owners got rid of the spacesaver and decided to put in a full size spare and the longer stud was needed.
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