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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: metalgod] #28171
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How will know stage 5 stuff so I can avoid it?
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How will know stage 5 stuff so I can avoid it?
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The Stage V heads are aluminum. Think the later heads have the normal Hemi exhaust flanges. The early head had a different exhaust flange. See picture. On this block I ended up cutting off the wedge mounting ears and drilling out the pads for the Hemi style mounts. I don't think you'll have this problem when using later model parts.

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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: moparmarks] #28173
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Just put my Arruzza Hemi in my Cuda. Tight fit. It did go in but it is/was tight. As metalgod said it's tight on the passenger side shock area with the stage V's.


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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: Choppintime] #28176
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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: Choppintime] #28177
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Choppin, I suppose you still can get back on your blower motor on the firewall huh? Do you think there is room to put a small A/C compressor down around where the fuel pump would be? Below the altenator?

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Had to take the blower motor out to get the engine in. Right now it's leaning back a bit without tranny in it, so I think when it's all squared away I will be able to reinstall the blower/heater box with no problems ( hopefully ). As far as an A/C compressor I'd think you'll have room if it's small enough.


Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: Choppintime] #28179
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Choppin, Can we get some pictures of your car once it is out of the garage? I really like your paint job. It reminds me of the 70's

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What motor mounts did you use? Did you have a Hemi K Member?

Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: metalgod] #28181
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I was considering using factory style exhaust manifold without heat tubes and heat riser. Also I herd that you needed to grind on your Hemi to get the mini starter to fit I thought if I used the factory manifolds I could use the 440 starter.
Also do you know where to purchase the "arruzza mounts"
Thanks for all the help
Bob Jack

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I had John Arruzza build my Hemi motor, used his mounts. I don't see a problem with them at all but I haven't fitted everything yet. Give John a call and see if he has any mounts in stock. I'm going to run the 2 1/8 Hemi headers from TTI. Haven't thought of a starter yet. Picture of car below.



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Sorry Cobratech, forgot to post John's phone number.

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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: Choppintime] #28184
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a bit of advise here, just my 2 cents worth, it has been my experience that trying to do a hemi conversion"on the cheap" is a very bad idea, the starter will work, or you can just buy the mini starter very nice unit fits like a glove, if running a manual the stock bell housing will work fine but not for drag racing applications(clutch and flywheel will be about 1000.00!!!) the arruzza mounts work fine as i have listed above in my other post and the shock tower clearnce problem has been adress with thestage 5 covers, dont try to piece the car together with the wrong parts you will end up with more truoble than you can imagine, the stock exhaust maniflod will work fine but for the same cost you could put a nice set of tti exhaust on the car, they fit well and sound great, the small sanden a/c compressors will fit down there you may have to fabricate a bracket but thats no big deal, i would check the clearnce on that a/c blower motor, but if i remember correctley i think they are a bit lower in the firewall????anyone else have a a/c ebody engine compartmet shot. installing a hemi in an mopar is a spendy operation, everything has to be changed, front front suspension, torsion bars, brakes, radiator etc etc etc big buck job do it right and you will be able to enjoy the car and not spend alot of time fixing things, many people here have done this swap and are more than happy to help but i think all agree that trying to cut corners on this swap is a real bad idea

Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: metalgod] #28185
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Here is where I got my AC mounting brackets and components. http://www.bouchillonperformance.com/
If the hemi is in the stock location you can use the stock heater blower motor.I have Barton valve covers on my motor and they still clear the blower motor.
I would stay away from the Schumacker mounts. They do not set the motor in the stock location.From the several cars that I have looked at with these mounts it appears that the motor sits much closer to the passenger side than stock.This will give you shock tower clearance problems with large valve covers.
I have my motor on a stock K frame in the stock location. TTI headers did not fit on my car with power steering.
Also I could not find anyone that made solid stock style motor mounts for a hemi. I had to have my own made.
Good luck these motors are a tight fit,

Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: metalgod] #28186
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I appreciate your good advise. I realize it's very expensive to restore an e body. I have been working on this for two years already.. I just got it off a rotisserie.. I am not trying to do anything cheep just the right way once. I have used the mini starters before on my AC Cobra and had no problems but just herd that you had to do some grinding on the opening on the Hemi to get it to fit, I don't like to grind on anything unless is a absolute must. I am also aware that a lot of big block stuff will fit the 426 Hemi and am in the learning stage.. I need as much input (Good and Bad)as I can get to pull this off.
My car came with a 440 and Auto Trans. in it so I have a lot of parts that I would love to use. I want to keep it an Auto 727.
I already installed Hemi Torsion bars but what other front suspension parts would need to be changed?
Not trying to be cheep but I'm not rich ether..Just Mopar crazy.
Bob Jack

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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: hemiclone] #28187
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I would really like to here from some of you guys that have bought a crate Hemi. What kind of problems did you have?? Oil Leaks..Motor failure..
Its a Hemi..couldn't be all that bad..could it?
Bob

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i dropped a hemi in a 72 Road Runner with a A/grabber hood. parts i used. mopar performance siamese hemi block, old style stage 5 hemi heads without a bolt hole for the alternator. indy 16 bolt single plane intake modified by milling 1/2" of the top. mopar performance valve covers, TTI big tube headers repo bower brake booster and bracket of un-known manufacturer, big bolck fluid dampner, stock 400 pulleys, flex tube dip stick, mopar performance mini starter, shumacher conversion mounts on a 400 K member. with the shumacher mounts the motor sits a bit to the passenger side and a bit higher than stock. the valve covers clear the right shock tower but the rub when i stand on it. DON'T buy the big tube TTI headers. they aren't worth the headaches on a street car. i have a buddy who has a 71 charger with the A/C mounted in the stock location. he had to modify the A/G base to get it to fit but it fits now. i am not sure how it would fit with a shaker aircleaner. he clears the A/C blower motor motor with cast valve covers also without mods. all i can say is PLAN in advance and go to the big shows and look for builds like you plan to do and ask alot of questions to the people who have done it before, nothing beats seeing instalations first hand instead of looking at pics.

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Re: HEMI engine swap tech help [Re: Mr T2U] #28189
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Thanks Mr T tu U
Are the BIG Tube TTI headers the same as the 2 1/8" stock hemi header that TTI shows on there web page? I am having problems with there sit loading is why I am asking.. I think they are listing 2" or 2 1/8" header for the stock hemi. Did the Mopar performance Hemi you ordered come with the indy intake?
I hope these questions don't sound to stupid, but if I don't ask I won't learn and I can't afford to make any mistakes.
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Cobratech, I did want to add that you do not need to use the hemi positive battery cable($200+ dollars) I wired my car just like a stock 440 car.
I don't know if you are planning on a stock power steering box. But I couldn't get TTI's to fit my car but that was with the big tube 2 1/4" primary tubes.
I would not run tubes smaller than 2 1/8" with a hemi.

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