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Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. #272639
03/31/09 05:49 PM 03/31/09 05:49 PM
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I bought these from the Right stuff and they came today. So off with the old 5/16th line and on with the new 3/8 line. However I almost had it in the hole that leads to the front after messing with it for 45 minutes and I got this bend in the difficult area that wraps the corner?????

Is it junk? any way to get the pinch out of it. I went so darn slow and tried so hard, but these are a pain in the tila?

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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272640
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I would take a SWAG and say that it is pretty much FUBAR at this point.

Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272641
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Yup, it's pooched. That kink is no good, unless you are able to cut it, flare the new ends left when you removed that piece and can find a high pressure fitting you're looking at getting another length of tubing.

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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272642
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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272643
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ouch! looks like scrap to me. where it is at it don't look like you can splice it very easy either.

Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272644
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I'm gonna assume you meant fuel line

yup, its junk. I would cut out the kink and replace it with a short piece of high quality fuel line and a couple ss clamps.
Or replace the entire line, your choice

Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #272645
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And buy at least a medium priced tubing bender or find some of the coil spring sleeve material to wrap around the line before you repeat the 'process'.

Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #272646
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I'm gonna assume you meant fuel line

yup, its junk. I would cut out the kink and replace it with a short piece of high quality fuel line and a couple ss clamps.
Or replace the entire line, your choice



Yep, I bought the fuel and brake lines all for the same car.

I dont know how I could have been any easier on this thing. And it still is not that close to fitting correctly. and more

Dave
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: Classof70Chally] #272647
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And buy at least a medium priced tubing bender or find some of the coil spring sleeve material to wrap around the line before you repeat the 'process'.




Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #272648
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I will buy a tubing bender. I didnt know I was going to need one, as I though this would be a lot closer to the original, thus eleminating the need. Oh well, another $75.00 down the drain. Its only money, right. what kind of tubing bender do you guys reccomend and Are the stainless lines any better????? If I get another, maybe fine lines will be a closer match??

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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272649
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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #272650
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Tubing bender, like th eone I just pulled out of my shop tool box, that I have never used, or maybe I did on a day when I was actually thinking about what I was doing.

This seem cumbersome, do they make a better one? whats best, maybe I should just buy stock and flaring tools and make my own if I am going to have to mess with them after buying them?

Dave
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #272651
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Just cut and splice. No big deal.

Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: earlybee] #272652
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Just cut and splice. No big deal.

just get another peice about 2feet long carfully make your bend then cut it down till it lines up with the staight part and splice,unless its a looks thing that will work.
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272653
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Tubing bender, like th eone I just pulled out of my shop tool box, that I have never used, or maybe I did on a day when I was actually thinking about what I was doing.

This seem cumbersome, do they make a better one? whats best, maybe I should just buy stock and flaring tools and make my own if I am going to have to mess with them after buying them?

Dave



A coil spring bender is cheap (<$5.00), easy to get on and off, and supports the tubing while you bend it. I bought one from the Plumbing Dept. at Ace hardware.

Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272654
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3/8 line is not easy to bend into a 90, even with a tube bender, i tried 2 benders, one as show on this page and another one, they both kinked the line, i decided to run braided line instead, good luck

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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272655
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I would cut the bad section out. Then replace with a union or elbow. they make compression fittings that should work, found at the local hardware.
I also bought some anodized AN type with 3/8" compression from Summit a while back. They worked fine and are also available in a sweeping elbow, this will not restrict the flow.
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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: deansrr] #272656
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I've heated line before for 90's - works much better.

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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: etek] #272657
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FYI stainless looks great and last forever but is harder to bend than the mild steel.

Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: etek] #272658
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I just bent my fuel line yesterday (5/16"). To make a 90, I used a spool-type bender ($10 at the local NAPA) and bent it about 60*, then moved toward the apex of the bend a little, bent another 5* and did that a couple more times, working away from my original bend, till I finally got a 90* bend. Granted, the radius of that bend is larger, but it doesn't have any kinks.
Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: sharpie] #272659
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Well, I just installed he front to rear brake line and that was a piece of cake and took all of 10 minutes to remove the old one and install the new one. Wish the fuel was that easy.

I dont know fuel lines, what kind of compression fitting will work?
and is the tubbing bender I have decent or should get a new one and what type of flaring tool. I have several cars to do and one is a 38 Plymouth that will require special shaped fuel lines I would imagine and its a 5.7 hemi. so return lines too??

Dave


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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272660
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Dave, ignore my compression fitting comment...I confused the fuel line with brake line d'oh!
Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272661
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Cutting and patching will work. That being said if it was my rig and another $75 wasn't going to break the bank I would get a replacement. It's two less places for a fuel leak to decide to start. If I patched it the only one who would know is me and that is all it would take.

Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: Classof70Chally] #272662
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Cutting and patching will work. That being said if it was my rig and another $75 wasn't going to break the bank I would get a replacement. It's two less places for a fuel leak to decide to start. If I patched it the only one who would know is me and that is all it would take.



Yes I agree and now that I am having a martini and realized I at least learned something I am now happy. I would like to know what kind of tubbign benders everyone is using and what they look like and what kind of flaring tools to get for the enxt projects.

Dave
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: Classof70Chally] #272663
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As a pipefitter for 20 plus years, I would say you toasted it. That line is NFG now.
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: badblack68] #272664
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OOPS! There's a few things you could do as mentioned, it's just a matter of what you'll settle for. Pete
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: pete] #272665
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i just bent up some 3/8 line for my dart. took the old one out and used it for a template. no probs.
got a coil of fuel line for $25 and the bender for $30. got the bender at sears
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00950509000P?keyword=bender
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: mike_vango] #272666
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I put a 3/8 stainless from Finelines in my demon. It took quite a bit of "rasslin" to get it in, and I had to massage it some too. I made it without any kinks though. If I had it to do over again, I think I might cut it near the middle, then splice it. I think I got lucky not kinking it.
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: monoptn] #272667
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my 3/8 stainless line went in my cuda remarkably easy. i thought it was going to be a pita but it wasnt. i cant believe i held off on doing it for 10 years thinking it was going to be hard
Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: aarcuda] #272668
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Nice job on that one!

Looks like you now have lots of spare tubing for any leaks.
Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272669
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It's salvageable, if need be. You could cut the bend and install a new section using two unions such as the one pictured below. Would require a flare tool.

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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: sharpie] #272670
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I just bent my fuel line yesterday (5/16"). To make a 90, I used a spool-type bender ($10 at the local NAPA) and bent it about 60*, then moved toward the apex of the bend a little, bent another 5* and did that a couple more times, working away from my original bend, till I finally got a 90* bend. Granted, the radius of that bend is larger, but it doesn't have any kinks.

I do what Brian does. It wont take a tight radius without kinking & I am definitely going to try(carefully) heating next time with a torch. I never thought about that with fuel lines.

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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: mike_vango] #272671
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i just bent up some 3/8 line for my dart. took the old one out and used it for a template. no probs.
got a coil of fuel line for $25 and the bender for $30. got the bender at sears
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00950509000P?keyword=bender




I bought one like the Imperial model on the same page. I haven't had a need for it yet.

I have a cheaper silver looking one for years that hurts my hand when I use it.

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Re: Did i wreck this new brake line? I am mad. [Re: Rug_Trucker] #272672
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I went with mild steel. I have heard people have issues with leaks due to stainless being so much harder. It can leak at the flare. Another vote to get another one. I used Fineline.

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Re: Did i wreck this new fuel line? I am mad. [Re: RUMBLON] #272673
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I did the same on my Challenger fuel line. Mine was aluminum . I have a kink like yours and have been running it for over 3 years, with no fuel problems.

I however would cut out the bad and add a union.

An old timers trick is to lay the tube against the round part of a ball pien hammer and bend arount it. Keeping it tight to the hammer. Will bend around and not kink.

Try it , it works!!
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