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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: moeflo] #267898
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How about having a hard look into what's needed for the 5.7/6.1 hemis. Valve train parts to get them into the .800+" lift range, as well as parts for the street crowd.. The aftermarket isn't saturated, their potential is off the chart and they're still in production. Help make the GM "LS" series guys miserable. It's the right thing to do.




isn't one of the limiting factors for big cams in those motors is distance of the rocker arm to the spring pocket?

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Defbob] #267899
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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: FastOne] #267900
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How about Hemi Parts.

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Chris2581] #267901
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An affordable quality H-beam rod and 440 6pak style flat top pistons for 440 Mopar.The rods should be stock size(.990 pin OK)6.76 length,3.75 stroke,pistons in +.020,.030.040 and .060 oversizes from 4.320 standard bore.




Sstock length would be 6.768 , that .008 makes a difference when the piston makers decided they needed to make a little shorter CH piston that'S ALREADY .020 in the hole on a factory blueprint deck , not that everyone has a factory blueprint deck .


Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Moparteacher] #267902
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If you can make them for less than $500 I will buy them tomorrow!




It would end up being a stock replacement rod for that price , is that what you are looking for ?

There isn't really anything wrong with the eagle rod except it being for a floating pin which means the only piston you can use it with is KB piston

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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: dartman366] #267903
03/29/09 12:02 PM
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lifters as good as Crane Ultra Pro Mechanical Roller Lifters


And with pushrod oiling,,ans also the w2/w5 race rocker, stand and shaft set-up in 1.6 and 1.5 ratio.




LIFTERS and if this were a wish list a low deck cast iron 4.500 bore block that would go to atleast 4.580 if not 4.625

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: rtstreet] #267904
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Did I mention anything for early hemi motors? If you are making sb parts, these early hemis are not going to require alot more tooling. And there IS a market.


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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: JohnRR] #267905
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If you can make them for less than $500 I will buy them tomorrow!




It would end up being a stock replacement rod for that price , is that what you are looking for ?

There isn't really anything wrong with the eagle rod except it being for a flaoting pin which means the only piston you can use it with is KB piston




Yes! Stock replacement w/1.094 floating. The Eagles have excessive side clearance on the big end, and are too wide on the small end to fit into a KB without modifications. The small end must be narrowed to fit into a KB #162 for 383.

And, whenever possible I prefer to purchase designed in, made in, finished in, distributed in, and owned by America/American.

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Moparteacher] #267906
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If you can make them for less than $500 I will buy them tomorrow!




It would end up being a stock replacement rod for that price , is that what you are looking for ?

There isn't really anything wrong with the eagle rod except it being for a flaoting pin which means the only piston you can use it with is KB piston




Yes! Stock replacement w/1.094 floating. The Eagles have excessive side clearance on the big end, and are too wide on the small end to fit into a KB without modifications. The small end must be narrowed to fit into a KB #162 for 383.

And, whenever possible I prefer to purchase designed in, made in, finished in, distributed in, and owned by America/American.




well then I guess thats a good thing since the KB162 is a useless POS and should be a persons LAST RESORT when it comes to 383 piston choice .

I like to buy American products also , but americans have become accustomed to a certian standard of living so unless the majority of americans want to earn the wage of a 3rd world sweat shop worker then the 500 american rod is a pipe dream at best ...

But I digress ...

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: MrMoparRacing] #267907
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How about a steel valve spring retainer for 3/8 valve that fits Comp beehive spring #26095 and 26055. Currently only titanium offered.

Or, PAC #1255 and 1295

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Moparteacher] #267908
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How about some more up to date profiles for bigblock race solid rollers? Split duration, more lift, options for high ratio friendly lobes, etc.


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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: JohnRR] #267909
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The KB 162 has it's appropriate place in the market even if it's not in a high performance application. Not everybody runs all-out and heads-up.

As for the cost of American made product and the cost of the American standard of living; being accustomed to a higher standard of living is a good thing and should be rightfully defended, and we should hope others can enjoy the rewards of Liberty, Freedom, and the inalienable rights that have secured our standard of living.

I am fully aware of the sacrifices that have ensured my rights and liberties that have enabled Americans, and so many others, to take advantage of the secured opportunities that have allowed for a higher standard of living.

I also understand that seeking an unrealistic value for an American made product results in a lower standard of living, not just for those manufacturing the product, but for all Americans, with the end result being the end of American manufacturing.

If an American made con-rod under $500 is a pipe dream then so be it. I'm alright with that. I will gladly pay more to ensure my continued standard of living and that of the American employees that make the products I purchase, it just means I won't buy it tomorrow. I will need to save before the purchase but I will still insist on American made first before cost, for the VALUE that comes from helping to ensure my family, and others, a higher standard of living is greater than the savings that may be made from buying from a government that disreguards civil rights, human rights, liberty, freedom, and democracy.


I fully believe buying product from a Communist controlled country undermines all that has been sacrificed in the last 233 years! And I can give a rats [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] if anybody thinks otherwise!

So, if Howards makes 383 rod, in the USA, I will buy it.

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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Defbob] #267910
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Another vote for steel rockers with standard and special offsets for Victor and stage 6 heads.

Also, could you make your direct lube lifters standard height if there is such a thing for Mopar? If they were about the same height as Comp's most people wouldn't have to buy new pushrods to use them. I'm sure you would sell more.

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Moparteacher] #267911
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a decent priced drop on spring/retainer for a magnum head that's in the 350lb/in range and a coil bind height of around .95-1", that maybe even used stock retainers?

budget spring/retainer choices are very slim for a magnum....


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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: Moparteacher] #267912
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The KB 162 has it's appropriate place in the market even if it's not in a high performance application. Not everybody runs all-out and heads-up.


So, if Howards makes 383 rod, in the USA, I will buy it.




The KB162 has it's place if you want to build a LOW COMPRESSION PIG, .024 in the hole AND a CANYON like valve TROUGH at 5cc ...

As far as the rod , if they make it I'll buy it also , but considering the 383/400 market I'm NOT holding my breath ...


Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: MrMoparRacing] #267913
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4.25 stroker crank for small block mopars with 2.0 chevy journals so it will easily fit any small block mopar with minimal grinding and lots of rods to pick from. You could take it a step farther and make it in a kit with good 6.125 I beam rods and pistons you could steal all of hughes thunder with their honda journal crank that only gives you 426 inches.


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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: MrMoparRacing] #267914
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An oil through flat tappet solid lifter that costs less than a hydraulic since they are easier to make.


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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: HotRodDave] #267915
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Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: bill_greenwood] #267916
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"Obviously, some items are not feasible (cost vs volume) to do but we can sure get working on some of this. Thanks for all your help and efforts."

This is a direct quote from one of the Howards Cams Tech guys! So keep the ideas coming on parts that you would buy if Howards Cams made them.

Howards Cams products are MADE IN THE USA!

Re: What Do YOU Want Howards Cams To Make For Mopars? [Re: MrMoparRacing] #267917
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"Obviously, some items are not feasible (cost vs volume) to do but we can sure get working on some of this. Thanks for all your help and efforts."

This is a direct quote from one of the Howards Cams Tech guys! So keep the ideas coming on parts that you would buy if Howards Cams made them.

Howards Cams products are MADE IN THE USA!




nice thing with the small block stuff I mentioned, with a minor change, or a little thought into the design, they should be able to make a mopar powderforged rod from a 6.125" chevy blank, w/a little secondary machining change, same with a SBM stroker crank. the magnum spring could be applicable to other makes as well, it'd basically be a 1.65" or so IH spring w/~100-120 seat pressure, and a 1" or so coil bind height and somewhere between 300-350lb/in rate

for people requesting the rocker arms, I wonder how the powder forging technology would work in a rocker....


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