Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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It does what the builder said it would!! The carb is the same 950HP that had major metering issues on pump fuel. He hit it pretty close OOTB. I havent evened turned a mixture screw yet. I did have to open both throttle plates 2 turns, but that was without touching the mixture screws. Had to go drive it.  It is a little rich at cruise, but seems to have more low-mid range torque. On pump fuel on the street with ET street radials, I could turn them pretty good till it hit 2nd, then it would bite. On E-85 it hit the shift light, shifted 2nd the light didnt even go out, spun the tires to about 55 or so. It treats the ET radials like it did regular radials, at least on the street anyway. Very badly.  Mark Sullens did my carb. http://www.geocities.com/mark_a_sullens ... 0426288296 My carb came with a detailed build sheet, and 6 pages on tuning instructions, very very detailed. Ive talked with Mark probably 3 hours on the phone since he has had my carb. He always acted like he had the time to answer any question and never acted in a hurry. He definetly knows E 85 and can answer any questions you have. I recommend him without a doubt!!
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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Von, are you saying that you tried E85 in that carb first and there was metering issues with it and then you sent it out?
do you have a AF meter in your car to see what its doing now? what was it doing before?
being rich at cruise could be from the secondary transfer slot exposed. i would like to hear about any details on what was done. wish E85 was more available in my area
your link didnt work BTW
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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Von, are you saying that you tried E85 in that carb first and there was metering issues with it and then you sent it out?
do you have a AF meter in your car to see what its doing now? what was it doing before?
being rich at cruise could be from the secondary transfer slot exposed. i would like to hear about any details on what was done. wish E85 was more available in my area
your link didnt work BTW
No, I never had E85 in this carb. The metering issues were with pump gasoline.
Yes, I have an 02 meter. On pump gasoline it was in the low 12's at idle, now its in the high 13's. I had to jet no gasoline to 86/95 to get 12.2-12.4 at WOT. It has 84/94 in it now, it was hard to keep an eye on the meter as I was all over the place, but it was around 11.8 or so WOT.
I know that the metering blocks were replaced with Quick Fuel pieces. Mark further modified the blocks to his own specs, replaced the boosters to more E85 friendly pieces, etc.
The link worked for me? 
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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03/25/09 11:09 PM
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Von, are you saying that you tried E85 in that carb first and there was metering issues with it and then you sent it out?
do you have a AF meter in your car to see what its doing now? what was it doing before?
being rich at cruise could be from the secondary transfer slot exposed. i would like to hear about any details on what was done. wish E85 was more available in my area
your link didnt work BTW
No, I never had E85 in this carb. The metering issues were with pump gasoline.
Yes, I have an 02 meter. On pump gasoline it was in the low 12's at idle, now its in the high 13's. I had to jet no gasoline to 86/95 to get 12.2-12.4 at WOT. It has 84/94 in it now, it was hard to keep an eye on the meter as I was all over the place, but it was around 11.8 or so WOT.
I know that the metering blocks were replaced with Quick Fuel pieces. Mark further modified the blocks to his own specs, replaced the boosters to more E85 friendly pieces, etc.
The link worked for me?
I dont understand this... you send in the carb to
have it changed over to E-85 and you get it back,
now your running gas through it.... that thing has
got to to be dog rich... why not use the E-85 
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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On pump fuel on the street with ET street radials, I could turn them pretty good till it hit 2nd, then it would bite.
On E-85 it hit the shift light, shifted 2nd the light didnt even go out, spun the tires to about 55 or so. It treats the ET radials like it did regular radials, at least on the street anyway. Very badly.
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Mike, I take it he never ran E-85 before the adjustments. But he is now. ""With E85 its Hitting the shift lite in 2nd". mike
Ok, I misunderstood
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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what carb do you have? what booster did you have and what is in it now?
did he use the red metering block or (i think QF sells a green one)
is there any specifics about changes to the metering block?
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
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How much did that conversion run you?
E85 is fairly easy to find around here, but still not everywhere. I wouldn't feel comfortable converting to it unless I added 2 or 3 extra fuel cells to the bed of the big block dakota, so I could go further than 50 miles away from the closest station (which is about 15 miles from home, so it REALLY limits my range!)
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Re: Got my E-85 carb back and..........
[Re: sixpackgut]
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what carb do you have? what booster did you have and what is in it now?
did he use the red metering block or (i think QF sells a green one)
is there any specifics about changes to the metering block?
950HP. I dont know the specifics on boosters.
He used the green metering blocks from QF. Yes, he did modify the blocks, but as to what he did, I dont know.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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How much did that conversion run you?
E85 is fairly easy to find around here, but still not everywhere. I wouldn't feel comfortable converting to it unless I added 2 or 3 extra fuel cells to the bed of the big block dakota, so I could go further than 50 miles away from the closest station (which is about 15 miles from home, so it REALLY limits my range!)
The conversion cost me 368. I had nothing to lose at the carb was jacked. Also, Im putting a 12.25 to 1 motor in the car later this summer, so why not skip the race fuel?
The thing that pushed me finally to E85 was I found a fuel tank on wheels. A friend of mine's dad was a safety inspector for a trucking company. One of their trucks was in a wreck and damaged a saddle tank. He had the tank repaired and sat it on a small trailer, put a hose and gasoline spicket on. They used it to fill their ski boat, but could never get it work right because it didnt have enough head pressure. I bought it, put a holley blue pump on it and it works like a charm. The tank holds 70 gallons and I doubt I'll use more than 150 gallons a year, so I think it will work out OK. Plus Ive got 30 gallons of gas cans to fill when I go to the station.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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