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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/25/09 07:29 PM
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Lengthen the steering arms 2", it wont hurt a thing
and it actually helps, you dont want a fast reacting
steering on the dragstrip. I had to lengthen mine on
my last chassis
It wont really hurt anything really but it will shorten your turning radius. Id rather have that then the extreme angle you show now. mike
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 07:48 PM
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It will swing to the rear of the car and if the rack arm is maxed out it will bend itself.
I admire what your doing but you need to put down the welder and do some more study. I dont have this rack thing down 100% myself.
Dont be like me and end up having to reposition
your Rack 4 times.
I understand that it's not going to work how it is. Thats why I posted the pics. The rack has never been mounted yet. Just mocked up, so I can move it anywhere in needs to be. Where it is at right now it's pretty much right were it needs to be geometrically. All the pivots are in line and the rack is level across.
If the steering arms are extended 2" as Mr P suggested everything will be right on. I just don't know about welding cast to mild steel. Has anyone done this? I've welded cast to cast with ni-rod 55. But I dont know of a procedure for mild steel to cast.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/25/09 07:59 PM
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If the steering arms are extended 2" as Mr P suggested everything will be right on. I just don't know about welding cast to mild steel. Has anyone done this? I've welded cast to cast with ni-rod 55. But I dont know of a procedure for mild steel to cast.
Use that same rod for cast to steel
I could also use nickel filler rod and tig weld it I believe. I'll have to give airgas a call tomorrow and see what they think is best.
What steel did you use? 1045?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 08:36 PM
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When you say you cut the taper off, what do you mean?
Where the tie rod end goes into, I used heim joints with
a 7/16" or 1/2" bolt(I forget which it was)
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 08:40 PM
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When you say you cut the taper off, what do you mean?
Where the tie rod end goes into, I used heim joints with
a 7/16" or 1/2" bolt(I forget which it was)
Oh ok. So you just drilled a .4375 or .500 hole in the end of the mild steel and run a bolt thru?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/25/09 09:23 PM
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Yep, but get your heims first before you drill it, I'm
sure you will need the high angular heims
Now that we solved the tie rod angle problem.......
How did you cut and thread your tie rods? Since the main rod is alot bigger than the threaded part. I have the .500 UNF die and tap. Thats the biggest I have.
I was thinking maybe make them whatever thread is close to the original diameter?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 09:33 PM
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Yep, but get your heims first before you drill it, I'm
sure you will need the high angular heims
Now that we solved the tie rod angle problem.......
How did you cut and thread your tie rods? Since the main rod is alot bigger than the threaded part. I have the .500 UNF die and tap. Thats the biggest I have.
I was thinking maybe make them whatever thread is close to the original diameter?
I dont think you will need to shorten the shaft I
think you will see that when you get done you will
need a short coupler with a insert in each end(threaded inserts).
I cant remember what the thread is on the rack but
just use that and put one of the inserts in your
coupler for that thread then the outer for the high
angular heim
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 09:46 PM
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Dodgeman did you make those frame rails or did you some like S&W???
These were on the car when we got it, and they go up an extreme angle, I kinda wished I had cut it all off and just put one of the round tube front chassis clips on it.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 09:50 PM
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After I mod my steering arms I'll know. But that is def what I would use. One problem though I can't scroll down on your screen   Thanks for the info  Big thanks to Mr P And HemiFred (where's that darn sheep smiley )
Last edited by R5P7Duster; 03/25/09 09:51 PM.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 10:05 PM
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You can just go to C.E.'s website and go to rack and pinions and it's there.
Remember to rosette(sp) weld them as well as just welding them up.
So you drilled holes in the sleeves and plug welded them besides welding the end of the sleeve?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 10:07 PM
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You can just go to C.E.'s website and go to rack and pinions and it's there.
Remember to rosette(sp) weld them as well as just welding them up.
So you drilled holes in the sleeves and plug welded them besides welding the end of the sleeve?
Yes, most definately do that.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 10:14 PM
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You can just go to C.E.'s website and go to rack and pinions and it's there.
Remember to rosette(sp) weld them as well as just welding them up.
So you drilled holes in the sleeves and plug welded them besides welding the end of the sleeve?
Yes, most definately do that.
Yep, thats a must do
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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03/25/09 10:25 PM
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Chassis Engineering's has the ujoints as well, someone on here may be a dealer for them and can get you a better price. The mail order places also have them. I made a complete column for mine with the quick disconnect for the wheel. I use this local guy in Missouri and he can beat the mail order places, if there isn't someone on here, give Vernon a call. http://www.barkerracingservice.com/
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