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#2610753 - 01/22/19 08:16 PM Seat Options for 5 point harness
Kam*Kuda Offline
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What are the options for a street strip car and seats and 5 point racing harness I had purchased the cheap Summit seats and adapted them but I would like a different option

Thoughts?

Pics?

Its for a 68 B Body
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#2610761 - 01/22/19 08:29 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
jcc Offline
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Is there a cage/roll bar in use?
How important is comfort?
Are you regular sized?


Do not forget seat mounting, belts hold a driver to/in the seat, if the seat moves any direction in a shunt, the belts become much less effective/restraining, no matter how good or tight the driver WAS wearing them.

Most important driver in my life, is my son, I bought him a containment Racetech seat.
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#2610791 - 01/22/19 09:17 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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I like the aluminum seats. Most guys like Kirkeys. I prefer the Jaz 120-300-03 seat. Smaller, not so huge looking in the car. Comfortable. Easy to mount.

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#2610816 - 01/22/19 10:27 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: jcc]
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Originally Posted By jcc
Most important driver in my life, is my son, I bought him a containment Racetech seat.


Good move jcc!
We have a Racetech 4119 seat in the `Cuda as well and installing a custom one in the Challenger build. We like the 119 Series seats due to the ability to back mount them. They are not cheap seats by any means but you get what you pay for. How much is your health and safety worth to you?

Racetech also has a 100 series seats that are more affordable that also has a back mount provision. We are a dealer for them, please email us know if we can help you out thanks!
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#2611005 - 01/23/19 10:31 AM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: RylisPro]
jcc Offline
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Good to know up

Is that an air feed black fitting on the lower back on the white seat?

If so, how does it work, is it channeled?
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#2611037 - 01/23/19 11:14 AM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: jcc]
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Yes on the back of 4119 or 9119 seats there is an air duct to hook up a portable fan (or an expensive portable AC unit) to cool down the driver. It is simply a hole that goes through the seat.
Here is the rear of a 9119 carbon/kevlar seat

You can also see the integrated back mount. When tied to the roll cage, the seat is so stiff that you can shake the entire car with it.

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#2611046 - 01/23/19 11:32 AM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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Keep in mind harnesses aren't dot

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#2611054 - 01/23/19 11:44 AM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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#2611067 - 01/23/19 12:01 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: RylisPro]
CMcAllister Offline
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Originally Posted By RylisPro
Yes on the back of 4119 or 9119 seats there is an air duct to hook up a portable fan (or an expensive portable AC unit) to cool down the driver. It is simply a hole that goes through the seat.
Here is the rear of a 9119 carbon/kevlar seat

You can also see the integrated back mount. When tied to the roll cage, the seat is so stiff that you can shake the entire car with it.



I assume this is in a road race car. A drag seat would be useless (and dangerous) for you. Different applications will require different seating solutions. A drag car with a roll bar will not use the same set up as a 25.5 or 25.1 chassis. Street car that will be driven miles? Something completely different.

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#2611099 - 01/23/19 12:52 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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Racetech b the good stuff but some people didn't pay that much for their whole car.
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#2611121 - 01/23/19 01:28 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: CMcAllister]
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
I assume this is in a road race car. A drag seat would be useless (and dangerous) for you. Different applications will require different seating solutions. A drag car with a roll bar will not use the same set up as a 25.5 or 25.1 chassis. Street car that will be driven miles? Something completely different.

This road race 9119 seat is actually used in drag setups as well. Probably due to its high safety factor and being only 14 lbs.

https://timmcamis.com/shop/racetech-carbon-kevlar.html

Racetech also has a 229 seat for drag cars with a very similar back mount design.
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#2612701 - 01/26/19 03:35 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: jcc]
Kam*Kuda Offline
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Thanks for the feed
Originally Posted By jcc
Is there a cage/roll bar in use?
How important is comfort?
Are you regular sized?


Do not forget seat mounting, belts hold a driver to/in the seat, if the seat moves any direction in a shunt, the belts become much less effective/restraining, no matter how good or tight the driver WAS wearing them.

Most important driver in my life, is my son, I bought him a containment Racetech seat.


Thanks for the feed back
Comfort is important as it is a street strip car
It has a roll cage cert for 8.50
I am 6 foot and 195 lbs

It is drag race and street oriented, not road race for this car.
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#2612703 - 01/26/19 03:39 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
Kam*Kuda Offline
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This is the car
And an old pic of the roll cage


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Edited by Kam*Kuda (01/26/19 03:42 PM)
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#2612755 - 01/26/19 05:49 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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The Racetech seat pictured in FG is comfortable. Its also snug, and offered in a wide version, which you may not need, is also offered in a tall version version, but again, you are right on the edge size wise IMO. I personally have an Alum Custom sized RR containment Kirkey. The Racetech is more comfortable. If car does not have AC, that duct attachment could be useful with just a fan, and could always later add the pricey all in one electrical cooler style. Rollbars with helmets on the street make me nervous, the better the seat restraint, the less chance you have of moving around and contacting a bar with your head, padded or not.
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#2612797 - 01/26/19 07:33 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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These are what I bought for my 69 GTX street/strip build. Car is not yet finished. I am using 5 point harness.

https://www.stage3motorsports.com/20901W-Corbeau-CR1-Racing-Seat-Wide-Version-Black-Cloth.html
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#2613011 - 01/27/19 09:45 AM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: markz528]
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Originally Posted By markz528
These are what I bought for my 69 GTX street/strip build. Car is not yet finished. I am using 5 point harness.

https://www.stage3motorsports.com/20901W-Corbeau-CR1-Racing-Seat-Wide-Version-Black-Cloth.html

How will you run the anti-sub belt with those seats?

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#2613211 - 01/27/19 06:42 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Mattax]
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Originally Posted By Mattax
Originally Posted By markz528
These are what I bought for my 69 GTX street/strip build. Car is not yet finished. I am using 5 point harness.

https://www.stage3motorsports.com/20901W-Corbeau-CR1-Racing-Seat-Wide-Version-Black-Cloth.html

How will you run the anti-sub belt with those seats?


The sub belt holes are an option when you buy them so the seats have the holes for the sub belts. I have yet to mount the belts but I have some ideas - looks like there will be adequate room, but it will be tight.

I made custom mounting brackets because the ones I bought were too high.

I can take pics of the seats installed but I wont be home for 2 weeks.
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#2613245 - 01/27/19 07:42 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Mattax]
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Originally Posted By Mattax
Originally Posted By markz528
These are what I bought for my 69 GTX street/strip build. Car is not yet finished. I am using 5 point harness.

https://www.stage3motorsports.com/20901W-Corbeau-CR1-Racing-Seat-Wide-Version-Black-Cloth.html

How will you run the anti-sub belt with those seats?

You can run the crotch belt up from in front of the seat and still be legal at most tracks I've raced on shruggy
I don't recommend doing it that way if you are planning on hitting something hard head on above 45 MPH, sliding your crotch forward three or four inches before hitting that belt may not end up with very pleasant experience whistling work tsk
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#2613275 - 01/27/19 08:39 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Cab_Burge]
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"anti submarine" belts primary purpose in upright seating cars is to keep lap belt from rising ( from the forces acting on the shoulder harness) into your soft venerable stomach area, and over the strongest bone structure in your body, the pelvis. The name is a misnomer, and if your jewels are hurting, you likely have serious other injuries, if you survived.

For clarity, a 3 point OEM belt does not pull up a lap belt in the way a 5/6 belt harness does, and is a different animal in this discussion.


Edited by jcc (01/27/19 08:58 PM)
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#2615619 - 02/01/19 12:53 PM Re: Seat Options for 5 point harness [Re: Kam*Kuda]
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Thanks I knew about Kirkey and was concerned that it would be uncomfortable
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