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#2606473 - 01/14/19 12:16 PM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: csk]
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Originally Posted By csk
The new one that is made to use r134a, NOT R12 like the original one is.


This!

The refrigerant you plan on using dictates which condenser you need to use. I buy all my under hood stuff from NostalgicAC in Florida, and all my in cabin stuff from Vintage Air.

NostalgicAC has a much wider selection of condenser sizes and designs, and they are very helpful and knowledgeable in helping design a effective system.. I use condensors that are much larger than what available from Vintage Air to better fill my radiator opening.
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#2606916 - 01/15/19 11:01 AM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: moparx]
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Originally Posted By moparx

my only question is whether your original was "iron".
i'll bet our individual interpretation of material is what is causing the confusion.
"iron" to me is usually a part made of the same [type] of material an intake or exhaust manifold is made out of, or brake master cylinder, of which parts are cast.
to cast, or form, an "iron" condenser would be quite the task, plus be brittle in use as i have previously stated.
steel, on the other hand, would be easy to fab into a condenser, and be very rugged in use. i'll bet that is what you have, and i have lost that fact in translation.


that could be, but under my understanding, steel is an iron aleation usually with carbon to make it harder so less ductile. While iron is simply iron. In Spanish, Steel ( no chemical symbol ) is acero, while iron is Hierro ( Fe as a chemical symbol LOL )

as mentioned, the original condenser I have is made with same tubes/pipes than the gas and tranny oil cooling lines, and those are not steel. Steel is not flexible. But call it whatever you want LOL

Originally Posted By moparx

sorry if i have unnecessarily ruffled your feathers ! that was not my attempt. please forgive.
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Edited by NachoRT74 (01/15/19 11:06 AM)

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#2606922 - 01/15/19 11:07 AM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: NachoRT74]
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#2607382 - 01/16/19 07:29 AM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: DGS]
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A prove the stock condenser is not aluminium. Note on this burnt Charger how all the aluminium parts got melted: quarter extensions, steering column which are aluminium aleation ( pot metal ) but not the condenser, not even partially!

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,134569.0.html

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#2607593 - 01/16/19 01:31 PM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: NachoRT74]
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good pic nacho. must be what i would call a "steel" condenser.[ biggrin]
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#2607736 - 01/16/19 06:17 PM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: DGS]
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#2607750 - 01/16/19 06:35 PM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: DGS]
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You think a radiator full of water might have shielded the condenser and prevented any melting?

Put a magnet on it, take a picture, post it.
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#2608003 - 01/17/19 09:10 AM Re: A/C condenser: new or old? [Re: DGS]
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Is noticeable fire reached the front side

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