Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/17/18 10:14 PM
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The super charger kits will certainly get you to 400+ HP. But they are $2,800 plus a blow-thru carb. And even that doesn't include any costs associated with the ignition curve or meth injection. So, it could easily get to $4,000. Or close to.
New aluminum heads and a cam kit would seem to be the logical choice when it comes to bang for the buck.
Master, again and still
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: 451Mopar]
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12/18/18 05:54 AM
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Edelbrock E-street heads, 0.020" head gasket, mild cam around 220+ duration @ 0.050, >0.470" lift. I posted this above because we were going to go this route with Dans '77 440 before we found the cast crank was > 0.004" clearance and the journals were gouged pretty good. Decided to just go stroker kit. Alot more $$$$, but alot more power too.
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/18/18 10:01 PM
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cheaper to change the pistons
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: 05dakota]
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12/18/18 10:31 PM
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cheaper to change the pistons Cheaper than what?
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/19/18 01:51 AM
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I agree. Read the article. Crazy
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
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12/22/18 10:52 PM
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I was very impressed with the article and the numbers they pulled from the low compression engine. I have a set of 516 heads with big valves in them and was wondering if the MP porting templates are still available? My porting won't be on par with theirs, but I would love to try and duplicate that engine, only using the larger of the Summit cams and a Performer RPM intake instead of the 509 and single plane intake. As an after thought, I have a set of 906 heads set up with Crane springs. I don't think I will give up much compression using them with .020 gaskets. Perhaps with minimal port work they would be a better alternative?
Last edited by elmor353; 12/22/18 11:02 PM.
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/22/18 11:22 PM
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The 906’s would be better.
IMO, there are better choices for what you’re doing than the summit cam.
Something like a Comp xe268, xe274, PP280, 280h.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/23/18 12:21 AM
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and was wondering if the MP porting templates are still available? I don't think so, but I got them and they are not worthly. Is just about use the logic making the work... I'm posting them if you want ( with an scale to print them correctly ) ( I don't know where I left my templates... they must be... somewhere around! I can't tell )
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/23/18 11:37 AM
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More complete porting templates, had to zip it to get it under the 2MB limit.
Includes B/RB/LA/Magnum templates.
Not mine and I forget where I got it from.
Try this one, it should work now.
Last edited by Supercuda; 12/23/18 02:07 PM.
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/23/18 01:03 PM
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great!!! but is not working LOL. It seems there is some damage to the PDF file trying to extract it.
Or maybe some ZIP problem trying to extract it with Winrar?
Last edited by NachoRT74; 12/23/18 01:17 PM.
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
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12/23/18 01:14 PM
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great!!! but is not working LOL. It seems there is some damage to the PDF file trying to extract it Interesting, I can extract the zip file I made, but not the one I downloaded from Moparts, should be the same. Odd.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Getting 400 HP From A Smogger 440
[Re: elmor353]
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12/23/18 01:18 PM
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That's been done a time or two. Here's a circa 1979/1980 package. You won't have any problems, but if you do chase compression much at all you'll find it really wakes it up.
Rich H.
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