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Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: Snoopy] #259249
03/21/09 05:39 PM
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Did you use the correct belleville washer under the nut and is it correctly positioned, convex side of washer up?

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Yes, I used the right washer, and it is oriented correctly. I'm having a hard time holding the yoke while tightening the pinion nut. Any tricks? I'm using the largest channel locks known to man...


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Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: capac] #259250
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AndyF has a yoke holder available here, I think it uses a 3/4" breaker bar or ratchet.


Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: capac] #259251
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A super-size pipe wrench makes a good yoke holder.


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Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: John_Kunkel] #259252
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Thanks for everyones help! I finally was able to crush the sleeve, but it took some enginuity...

Stack of blocks stopping the channel locks, which had a hose clamp around the handle holding the jaws tight. Then I used a floor jack to tighten the nut. Little by little, I would jack it up, then take it all off and measure rotational torque...

Needless to say, just took a test drive and everything is peechy!



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Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: capac] #259253
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Well that's an interesting way to do it ...

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: JohnRR] #259254
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Does this make me elligable for some sort of redneck award?


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Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: capac] #259255
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not yet. once those pliers break and smack you in the face- then you get the award

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: aarcuda] #259256
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not yet. once those pliers break and smack you in the face- then you get the award





Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: Snoopy] #259257
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AndyF has a yoke holder available here, I think it uses a 3/4" breaker bar or ratchet.




That's a yuppie tool Unless you have a concours NOS Hemi yoke that you don't want to scratch then just use a pipe wrench. A pipe wrench is much faster especially if you are setting pinion bearing preload. Just my

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: 446acuda] #259258
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I'm trying to figure out how you would go about figuring out the torque with that setup.

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: Snoopy] #259259
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I'm trying to figure out how you would go about figuring out the torque with that setup.


the pipe wrench would be removed when checking pinion bearing preload with an inch-lb torque wrench just the same as the yoke holder would be removed when checking pinion bearing preload. Both serve the same purpose: to hold the yoke when tightening or loosening the pinion nut. Maybe I just don't understand what you mean?

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: 446acuda] #259260
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The factory requires a minimum of 170 foot pounds of torque on the pinion nut. How would you calculate the torque applied to the nut, without guessing?

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: Snoopy] #259261
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You hold the yoke with anything that you want and use a torque wrench to torque the pinion nut to specs. The torque wrench doesn't care what you hold the yoke with whether it's a 2 foot yoke holder or a 10 foot pipe wrench or anything in between.

Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: 446acuda] #259262
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Show me the torque wrench in his setup.

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Show me the torque wrench in his setup.





Re: ring and pinion woes... [Re: Snoopy] #259264
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ok I got ya. What I was saying is that it is much quicker setting pinion bearing preload with a pipe wrench since it can be removed much quicker than a pinion holding tool. Odds are, you are going to have to remove the yoke more than a few times to get the correct shim pack for get the preload in specs and it would get old removing that pinion holding tool after a few times. I realize that the yoke holding tool can be used just to remove and install pinion nut and that's obviously what you are getting at and if that's the case, buying an occasional use "specialty tool" doesn't make much sense unless you are going to use it more than a few times a year. There are some specialty tools worth having but this isn't one of them IMO.

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