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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: 6PKRTSE]
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12/14/18 02:41 PM
12/14/18 02:41 PM
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JERICOGTX
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Hey, Big Inch. Just put as much crome moly tubing in there as you can. Then get a gallon of Goriila glue to hold it together. Then you're good to go! Some more sound advice from your uncle. Not to go against the grain of what you're saying but professionals like Bill Lutz are using RTV now-a-days. I see what you did there. LOL You guys joke but I know of one of our local No E.T./Grudge cars that the track officials finally told our buddy with a sleeper 10.5" tire Mustang with no cage & factory lap bet, we know how fast you are going & we would appreciate it if you put a cage in the car. He did, it is all glued together plastic PVC with some roll bar padding on the door bar & head bars to look the part. The officials never said anything again. It is funny watching him climb over the door bar & it flexes as he gets in & out. Not for me though. I would rather be safe. Not sure why people skimp on safety.
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: 6PKRTSE]
#2591930
12/14/18 05:01 PM
12/14/18 05:01 PM
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CMcAllister
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You guys joke but I know of one of our local No E.T./Grudge cars that the track officials finally told our buddy with a sleeper 10.5" tire Mustang with no cage & factory lap bet, we know how fast you are going & we would appreciate it if you put a cage in the car. He did, it is all glued together plastic PVC with some roll bar padding on the door bar & head bars to look the part. The officials never said anything again. It is funny watching him climb over the door bar & it flexes as he gets in & out. Not for me though. I would rather be safe.
B1^@h about NHRA all you like, seat belt rules, chassis certs, all of it. But this kind of stupid s#1^ doesn't happen at divisionals or national events. If a guy is that stupid to go down the track in junk like that, I don't want to be beside him. I've seen too many junk cars wadded up and too many people hurt.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Al_Alguire]
#2591939
12/14/18 05:11 PM
12/14/18 05:11 PM
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Biginchmopar
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FC cage and a few bars on/under/above floor will cover it generally. Al, do you know what SFI spec it would be? Stock firewall, stock floor, ect...
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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12/14/18 05:34 PM
12/14/18 05:34 PM
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[quote=pittsburghracer][quote=HardcoreB][quote=merpar]
You guys joke but I know of one of our local No E.T./Grudge cars that the track officials finally told our buddy with a sleeper 10.5" tire Mustang with no cage & factory lap bet, we know how fast you are going & we would appreciate it if you put a cage in the car. He did, it is all glued together plastic PVC with some roll bar padding on the door bar & head bars to look the part. The officials never said anything again. It is funny watching him climb over the door bar & it flexes as he gets in & out.
Not for me though. I would rather be safe.
  You can talk to people, that doesn't mean they will listen  As far as that racer I hope he doesn't crash that car and die from the plastic tube breaking and penetrating his body I agree. Like I said not for me. He has lost his brakes before & went off the end of the track into the sand. Doesn't seem to bother him at all. I went all out for safety & this is still a street car.
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1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
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1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Biginchmopar]
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12/14/18 05:38 PM
12/14/18 05:38 PM
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The officials never said anything again.
Personal injury lawyers get rich on that sort of thing.
My question: how many rich & famous are getting a pass, and everyone was smart enough NOT to tell? See, if someone can go to jail for what they allowed, the chances of them erasing a tape or losing a test report go from zero to 100 in no seconds.
Corruption and privilege always found together.
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: polyspheric]
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12/14/18 05:56 PM
12/14/18 05:56 PM
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The officials never said anything again.
Personal injury lawyers get rich on that sort of thing.
My question: how many rich & famous are getting a pass, and everyone was smart enough NOT to tell? See, if someone can go to jail for what they allowed, the chances of them erasing a tape or losing a test report go from zero to 100 in no seconds.
Corruption and privilege always found together. It's on No E.T./Grudge nights. There is no tech what-so-ever. Whatever you show up in you can race. As always racer sign the waiver upon entering the track so they are on there own. Every car there is faster than it looks. At least it is only 1/8 mile these days so not as bad as it was a few years ago but even with that I know of a few sub 1.0 sec 60' 10.5" tire cars going up to & over 200+ in the 1/8.(at least these guys have cages).
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Biginchmopar]
#2591987
12/14/18 07:02 PM
12/14/18 07:02 PM
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FC cage and a few bars on/under/above floor will cover it generally. Al, do you know what SFI spec it would be? Stock firewall, stock floor, ect... 25.5 is 7.50 and slower with stock floors and firewall...
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Biginchmopar]
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12/14/18 08:49 PM
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Yep 25.5 for Moly or 25.4 for Mild..I think .4 is up to C and .5 is up to the D version these days.
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: Biginchmopar]
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12/15/18 01:45 PM
12/15/18 01:45 PM
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I know a guy that made his roll bar set up out of exhaust pipe. He did a real good job, tig welded also. From just looking at it you couldn't tell it wasn't legal. Well he lost control and rolled it . What a surprise that he put in a legal cage in the next car. By trying to fool the tech guy , your only signing your death certificate.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Roll Cage requirements
[Re: rowin4]
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12/15/18 02:05 PM
12/15/18 02:05 PM
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around 62-63 there was a section of the interstate here that wasn't finished, so many "used" that section, "wink,wink". one local guy had a slingshot style dragster made entirely of "muffler moly" he ran there. was fairly fast, although the exact times and speeds at legitimate tracks has been lost to father time. you're mention of exhaust tubing cages reminded me of that car. 
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