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#2589726 - 12/10/18 01:18 AM F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today
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2 of the expected 72 F35s arrived down under today, a massive commitment for a country the size of the USA mainland and only 25 million people. Any F35 experts on the forum, love to hear your comments on the new planes. The Royal Australian Air Force will be retiring the aging FA18s and they served us very well especially on the numerous overseas commitments.

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#2589756 - 12/10/18 08:13 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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They are very loud LOL
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#2589795 - 12/10/18 10:31 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: 69hemibeep]
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You guys still fly the F111?

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#2589798 - 12/10/18 10:34 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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I think the reviews on the F35 vary widely depending on who writes the review - it was the same with the F22's. Not too many liked the F22's from what I've read. Hard to beat an F15 in any department excluding stealth.
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#2589824 - 12/10/18 11:20 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: dart4forte]
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Originally Posted By dart4forte
You guys still fly the F111?


The F-111's have been scrapped from the Australian inventory for quite a number of years now.
They took the major components out of them, then they actually buried what was left of them.
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#2589884 - 12/10/18 12:52 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: dart4forte]
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Originally Posted By dart4forte
You guys still fly the F111?


Sad sight for me, I wrenched on many of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80OadL7f8Lo
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#2589999 - 12/10/18 04:46 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: hemi71x]
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Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By dart4forte
You guys still fly the F111?


The F-111's have been scrapped from the Australian inventory for quite a number of years now.
They took the major components out of them, then they actually buried what was left of them.


Any particular reasons why they weren't recycled? Technology that couldn't be economically removed or risk anyone seeing, even at the recyclers? Seems like practice targets would have been a useful alternative, then buried and or recycled.

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#2590015 - 12/10/18 05:06 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: Locomotion]
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Originally Posted By Locomotion
Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By dart4forte
You guys still fly the F111?


The F-111's have been scrapped from the Australian inventory for quite a number of years now.
They took the major components out of them, then they actually buried what was left of them.


Any particular reasons why they weren't recycled? Technology that couldn't be economically removed or risk anyone seeing, even at the recyclers? Seems like practice targets would have been a useful alternative, then buried and or recycled.


Ya, For whatever reasons Australia determined that was left of the fuselage, and large components, were constructed of environmentally toxic materials, and was determined to leave them they way they were, and just bury them whole, in large pits, in the designated landfill.

Australian big wigs, bean counters, at work, down under.

If you would like to know more, use GOOGLE.
There are numerous written stories out there, why Australia did what they did with them.
That's how i learned lots more about them.

If i remember correctly it had lots to do with asbestos in those F-111's.


Edited by hemi71x (12/10/18 06:43 PM)
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#2590030 - 12/10/18 05:25 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: hemi71x]
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Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By dart4forte
You guys still fly the F111?


The F-111's have been scrapped from the Australian inventory for quite a number of years now.
They took the major components out of them, then they actually buried what was left of them.


There are a few F1-111s in museums around Australia, we have one not far from me in the Fighter Jet Museum in Adelaide South Australia.

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#2590069 - 12/10/18 06:31 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: Locomotion]
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Originally Posted By Locomotion


Any particular reasons why they weren't recycled? Technology that couldn't be economically removed or risk anyone seeing, even at the recyclers?


Yeah, they were earmarked for disposal to honor the terms of the original contract and ensure that any sensitive parts didn’t fall into the wrong hands.
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#2590126 - 12/10/18 08:25 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: John_Kunkel]
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#2590151 - 12/10/18 09:16 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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I think it's cool that Australia is getting F-35s up

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#2590212 - 12/10/18 11:25 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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Fighter jets ? except for a few ELITE pilots that are on a huge ego trip .. in this day and age - me thimks that AVATION DOLLARS could be way better spent on more needed aircraft.
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#2590385 - 12/11/18 11:39 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: Doc Fiberglass]
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Like what?
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#2590445 - 12/11/18 01:49 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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Just off the top of my head.,. More higher tech drones, a more durable Osprey- stealthier bombers ...
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#2590482 - 12/11/18 03:01 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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Originally Posted By fullonmopar

The Royal Australian Air Force will be retiring the aging FA18s and they served us very well especially on the numerous overseas commitments.


By "retiring" you mean sell to us here in Canada. Our government has repeatedly bungled and botched the procurement process that was originally supposed to be for an order for F35's. Now we're buying Australia's old junk so we can keep patching along our fleet of CF-18's that entered service in the early-mid 80's.

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#2590486 - 12/11/18 03:06 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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The Red Chinese apparently were able to steal plans for the
F-22,
unchosen F-23 and
F-35.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/...blic-debut.html

One wonders how their J-20 will do against the F-35,
especially since they have announced plans to build 4X as many
J-20s as we will will have in
our USA combined fleet of F-22 and F-35s.

Regardless of how well the F-35 does as more bugs get worked out,
It will be an all time example of a vast cost over-run military project.

“Quantum Radar” may soon make the stealth features far less advantagous.

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#2590550 - 12/11/18 05:16 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo


By "retiring" you mean sell to us here in Canada. Our government has repeatedly bungled and botched the procurement process that was originally supposed to be for an order for F35's.


Same thing happened with the ill-fated CF-105. Your government really blew it there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow
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#2590699 - 12/11/18 11:32 PM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: fullonmopar]
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Yes...the F35 is loud. Been working along Nellis AFb for almost 2 yrs now. The F22 is really cool watching it fly but still got the love for the f15...always thought they could update the air frame and new avionics and it would sit give almost anything in the sky hell.


Nellis has changed their flight patterns ...taking off towards the northeast and the fighters do a hard bank to the left to head towards the range. They are only a few hundred feet off the ground as they scream over the Drag strip.


Edited by 70AARcuda (12/11/18 11:33 PM)
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#2590749 - 12/12/18 06:53 AM Re: F35 Fighter planes arrive all the way down under today [Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Originally Posted By fullonmopar

The Royal Australian Air Force will be retiring the aging FA18s and they served us very well especially on the numerous overseas commitments.


By "retiring" you mean sell to us here in Canada. Our government has repeatedly bungled and botched the procurement process that was originally supposed to be for an order for F35's. Now we're buying Australia's old junk so we can keep patching along our fleet of CF-18's that entered service in the early-mid 80's.


At least the Aussie aircraft are meticulously maintained and upgraded. Usually New Zealand gain our cast offs, never knew Canada got our stuff as well.

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