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#2589715 - 12/09/18 11:33 PM I finally have started my conversion...
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my garage has 9 pairs of 8 foot long T12 florescents that I am going to convert to LED. My garage is 10 foot tall, and I have to run up and down the ladder so I only got one pair done.

I bought these from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IIWJFZC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ordered these because they had FAIR reviews and they were available open box for $100 less. Only 1 seemed damaged but it worked.

First impressions on the swap are that the original GE lights tombstones are fragile, I broke 1 out the 4 by trying to remove the original wires when removing the ballast during the rewire to remove the ballasts. I got a replacement from Lowes for $5 and it was quick to replace. The light are very bright but they are more like a spot light. I think if I was to do it over, I would get the frosted so they would be more like the florescent and spread the light around.

Tim
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#2589892 - 12/10/18 01:07 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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I changed over a total of 40 8-footers and 10 4-footers. Made the mistake of buying the cheaper 8-footers from E-bay, about 20% of them flicker from time-to-time as half of the tube goes dead. The pins at the ends of the LED tubes are shorter than the fluorescents so I had to stuff aluminum foil in some of the sockets to make proper contact.

Overall, I'm satisfied with the improvement in lighting; I went with the 4500K tubes.
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#2589988 - 12/10/18 04:33 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: John_Kunkel]
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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
I changed over a total of 40 8-footers and 10 4-footers. Made the mistake of buying the cheaper 8-footers from E-bay, about 20% of them flicker from time-to-time as half of the tube goes dead. The pins at the ends of the LED tubes are shorter than the fluorescents so I had to stuff aluminum foil in some of the sockets to make proper contact.

Overall, I'm satisfied with the improvement in lighting; I went with the 4500K tubes.


I would hate to have your power bill John...Tim
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#2590002 - 12/10/18 04:52 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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4500K is the color of the light, not the number of lights he has.
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#2590022 - 12/10/18 05:15 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: Supercuda]
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i went with 5000K on my conversion, but i used 12, 2-tubers in the 4-tubers white, reflective, tin work. shop is 24x30.

it is a LITTLE on the bright side. biggrin and i like it. my old, tired eyes [or is it tired old eyes ?] can finally see a little better.
in my 14x32 addition, i'm going to do the same quantity.
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#2590056 - 12/10/18 06:18 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: Supercuda]
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
4500K is the color of the light, not the number of lights he has.


I was thinking of the 40 lights..I only have 18 to change but if I left the lights on when they were all working I think my power bill went up about $3 per day
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#2590388 - 12/11/18 11:42 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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All 40 are never on at the same time, usually no more than 12 at a time plus they're in 3 different buildings.
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#2590804 - 12/12/18 09:47 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: John_Kunkel]
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Because of this thread, I decided to join in and upgrade some of my garage lights as well.

4-pack of 4' 4000K Daylight Glow
4-pack of 4' 5000K Crystal White Glow

Thought I would see which I liked better before buying more. Should be here tomorrow.

Curious how well they fire up on a cold midwestern winter day.

Thanks for helping me spend $90, guys. wave beer

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#2590848 - 12/12/18 11:43 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: 330Scott]
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as i did my conversion this summer using hyperkon units, the coldest day i have been able to test them has been 18* outside, with a 29* inside the garage temp. i put up new garage doors this summer as well, and they seal a ton better now, but my ceiling still does not have any insulation.

i do know they come on INSTANTLY at FULL brightness, opposed to the fluorescent tubes.
by the way, i had four tube fluorescent fixtures, and now only two tube LEDS. the brightness with only 1/2 the tubes, is at LEAST almost triple over the florescent ones.
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#2590917 - 12/12/18 01:40 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: 330Scott]
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Originally Posted By 330Scott
Because of this thread, I decided to join in and upgrade some of my garage lights as well.

4-pack of 4' 4000K Daylight Glow
4-pack of 4' 5000K Crystal White Glow

Thought I would see which I liked better before buying more. Should be here tomorrow.

Curious how well they fire up on a cold midwestern winter day.

Thanks for helping me spend $90, guys. wave beer


LED? They shouldn't care about the temp. They should be instant on.

Kevin

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#2591180 - 12/13/18 12:31 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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Mine are in,
and the Lord said, "Let there be light! and it was LED"\

Its like daylight in the garage! I had one that didnt work though, I am not sure how Amazon will return only 1 bulb out of a set of 4...and I still need 2 more and to rewire one fixture and remove the ballast. Tim


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#2591266 - 12/13/18 09:55 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: Twostick]
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Originally Posted By Twostick
Originally Posted By 330Scott
Curious how well they fire up on a cold midwestern winter day.


LED? They shouldn't care about the temp. They should be instant on.

Kevin


Thanks, Kevin. Yet another example of what I know. laugh2

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#2591289 - 12/13/18 10:30 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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I put some LED fixtures in my garage lately to replace the two 60w bulbs I had been using. Paperwork says they are good to -40°. Which, in a funny coincidence of math and science, is the same temperature F or C.

I figure at anything near -40° I won't be worrying about my lights coming on.
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#2591304 - 12/13/18 11:01 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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Not knowing how much brighter they were it seems overlit when replacing the old and putting the new in the same location!


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#2591361 - 12/13/18 01:19 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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It is nice to see that I am not the only one with a cluttered Garage!
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#2591749 - 12/14/18 09:17 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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HA ! you oughta see my mess. slowly, i'm making some headway of cleaning up that problem, but it's tough !
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#2591865 - 12/14/18 11:49 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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Everything in my house has been switched to LED lights. Made a difference in the electric bill.
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#2591957 - 12/14/18 02:47 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
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my barn when I acquired it was wired with (10) 60 watt light bulbs... for a 30x40 space... ive been changing them over a couple a month to 18,000 lumen LED 5000K integrated fixtures. talk about making daylight. I have a few left to do.


was kind of nice doing a head gasket on my cummins without auxiliary lights.
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#2591965 - 12/14/18 03:03 PM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: ViperDave]
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Originally Posted By ViperDave
my barn when I acquired it was wired with (10) 60 watt light bulbs... for a 30x40 space... ive been changing them over a couple a month to 18,000 lumen LED 5000K integrated fixtures. talk about making daylight. I have a few left to do.


was kind of nice doing a head gasket on my cummins without auxiliary lights.


Nice isn;t it?

remember when having a drop light was state of the art? lol.
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#2592189 - 12/15/18 12:14 AM Re: I finally have started my conversion... [Re: astjp2]
astjp2 Offline
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Then it was those yellow halogen floor lights that burned out if you touched the hard bulb, now we have single led 's that can blind you
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