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Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2560259
10/07/18 10:37 AM
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I have real interest in this competition. First of all, all that is just stupid power for a tiny cube pump motor.

The sbf hemi was being dynoed at a friends ford shop in tucker ga, Engine Systems. Sounded like a cup motor going down the straight at daytona.

Also I just bought a C3H headed 360" sbf built by Ernie Elliott, with heads by the best in the cup world, Kent Ford. Only bought it because it was a screaming deal. Pump gas, all new components and never ran, and Ernie said it would make between 725, and 750. Which sounded overly optimistic to me, but after seeing this, who knows. I'm going to pick it up and dyno it next week.

I've never really had interest in small blocks, but I'm starting to look lol.

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2560264
10/07/18 10:51 AM
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Remember, this motor makes a good bit more power at 8k plus than it did at 7500 rpm.
The contest capped the rpm at 7500


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2560306
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I hope, just for bragging rights, after the contest pulls, they let each contestant wind them up for at least one pull.

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: dthemi] #2560309
10/07/18 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By dthemi
I have real interest in this competition. First of all, all that is just stupid power for a tiny cube pump motor.

The sbf hemi was being dynoed at a friends ford shop in tucker ga, Engine Systems. Sounded like a cup motor going down the straight at daytona.

Also I just bought a C3H headed 360" sbf built by Ernie Elliott, with heads by the best in the cup world, Kent Ford. Only bought it because it was a screaming deal. Pump gas, all new components and never ran, and Ernie said it would make between 725, and 750. Which sounded overly optimistic to me, but after seeing this, who knows. I'm going to pick it up and dyno it next week.

I've never really had interest in small blocks, but I'm starting to look lol.



I can see it making 750Hp, those Kent CH3 fud heads can flow as much as 420/430CFM


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Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2560333
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Kent said the same about flow. I pulled the manifold off to have a look at it. Looks like a good flowing intake runner.


Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2560635
10/08/18 12:33 AM
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Darren, a ford. Are you going over to the dark side? Don't let those Tucker boys steer ya wrong.

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: Stewart] #2560670
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Originally Posted By Stewart
Darren, a ford. Are you going over to the dark side? Don't let those Tucker boys steer ya wrong.


Lol no sir, I am not...Just a good deal, and my son likes mustangs. He's never had an interest in cars before, so maybe a starter car for him. Then later when he comes to appreciate mopes we'll ditch it back into the endless sea of stangs lol.

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2578753
11/15/18 03:00 PM
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Saw on the Valley machine site blog these guys won the inline valve portion of the competition.
Power( as stated earlier) was 737 and torque 570+. This is down from the 771 he made prior.
But these pulls were made with mufflers on and he said it was 95 degrees with high humidity.
Have no idea why muffs were used or why it was so hot.
But you can see the motor on the dyno if you go to Valley performance and Machine website and find the blog there.
Kinda surprised the cam was only 255-265@ 50.


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2578758
11/15/18 03:12 PM
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still a very respectable build, Awesome to see it come from a SBM


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Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: ric3xrt] #2588432
12/07/18 03:13 AM
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Hot Rod Network Article on this Engine...Pretty exotic for a stock block. https://www.hotrod.com/articles/valley-performance-machine-service-builds-7500-rpm-small-block/#

Re: 771 horse stock stroke 360 motor, pump gas [Re: B3422W5] #2588755
12/07/18 08:18 PM
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Very impressive.
The lengths required to make the " stock " block work really hammer home the need for a quality aftermarket replacement.
I hope the Ritter block fills that void.

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