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#2588537 - 12/07/18 09:38 AM What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car
McCandlessboy Offline
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When you know it isn't.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/duster/2191109.html#&gid=1&pid=1

This lying POS has been trying to sell this car as Dad's 70 SM Indy winning duster. That car was 100% destroyed. We know this to be a 100% fact. Now this ass is trying to take advantage of someone and sell the car as that car. Feel free to call him and let him know your thoughts if you like smile.

Mike McCandless

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#2588539 - 12/07/18 09:44 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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What's this proof he writes about?

It was said to be destroyed within months but it wasn't, with proof

Either way, what is he actually selling then?

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#2588550 - 12/07/18 10:11 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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"irreputable"?

He obviously hasn't a clue what the word means. He must have wanted to say "irrefutable", but doesn't know the difference.

Yeesh what a piece of work this fool must be.

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#2588553 - 12/07/18 10:21 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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I think I would contact Hemmings and let them know what this guy is doing. If they are interested in keeping false classified adds out of their magazine and off their web site then they will listen to you and do something about it.
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#2588559 - 12/07/18 10:29 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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I have dads 65-68-72 cars. The only car I don't have that I'd like to have, is his 67 car. Which will be tough to locate as we don't know the VIN and it was converted over to an Automatic early on. If this were the real car, I'd be all over it. Here is a video of dad talking about Indy in 70 from NHRA a few months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKLa2V5tZA

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#2588560 - 12/07/18 10:29 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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He has one thing right...........
" Beware, this car will never be verified by the people who originally raced it first."
Wonder why he made that statement?? LMOL
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#2588565 - 12/07/18 10:38 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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He claims he has proof, but doesn't supply it (for obvious reasons).

If you have proof of it being destroyed at your disposal, like photos, paperwork, etc., maybe forward that along to the people at Hemmings. I'm sure that would hold some weight and hopefully motivate them to cancel the ad.

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#2588566 - 12/07/18 10:41 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: hemi-itis]
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Cool looking car , I would not worry too much , anyone that might would pay that much for it , would do the ground work to verify ..at that time you can explain to the potential buyer your side of the story

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#2588567 - 12/07/18 10:43 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: bigdad]
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What the heck year is it (73-74)? Not what the ad states.
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#2588577 - 12/07/18 10:50 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
McCandlessboy Offline
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This guy knows the car is not real. We've informed him before. The original car was in a towing accident, burnt everything down to the ground. It was tragic and not something my father wants to talk about. Probably why I get defensive about it.

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#2588587 - 12/07/18 11:01 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: rrbrucea]
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Originally Posted By rrbrucea
"irreputable"?

He obviously hasn't a clue what the word means. He must have wanted to say "irrefutable", but doesn't know the difference.

Yeesh what a piece of work this fool must be.


I think that's what's called a freudian slip

irreputable means "not reputable", the term is generally obsolete in normal usage though..

Which is pretty much how this guy comes off in his ad.
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#2588603 - 12/07/18 11:22 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: Supercuda]
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
Originally Posted By rrbrucea
"irreputable"?

He obviously hasn't a clue what the word means. He must have wanted to say "irrefutable", but doesn't know the difference.

Yeesh what a piece of work this fool must be.


I think that's what's called a freudian slip

irreputable means "not reputable", the term is generally obsolete in normal usage though..

Which is pretty much how this guy comes off in his ad.



Exactly! up Isn't it entertaining when idiots try to come off sounding intelligent? Seems like it often ends up being one of those "better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt" moments.

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#2588609 - 12/07/18 11:28 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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Could your family attorney be helpful?

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#2588610 - 12/07/18 11:29 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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Originally Posted By McCandlessboy
This guy knows the car is not real. We've informed him before. The original car was in a towing accident, burnt everything down to the ground. It was tragic and not something my father wants to talk about. Probably why I get defensive about it.


I thought I had seed a newspaper story with a photo about that incident? shruggy
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#2588612 - 12/07/18 11:39 AM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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He's not directly saying my Dad's name. At this point, I'm not going to bring lawyers into it. People know the lengths I'll go to in order to protect my Dad's name. I don't think he's dumb enough to push it that far.

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#2588640 - 12/07/18 12:49 PM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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I saw that ad with a lot less "description" a couple of days ago. Maybe the Seller will get braver...

Trying to "read between the lines" on his claim, perhaps he's claiming the chassis survived and that would supposedly provide some clue? Identifying factors can cut both ways...

I don't think given his acknowledgement in the ad (that the car's provenance will be strongly rebutted by the very people whose provenance gives the car historical value) he's going to get his price!

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#2588641 - 12/07/18 12:51 PM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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You may be doing this already, but if I was you I would make this same post on every Mopar forum you know about.

You have already saved anyone who follows this forum from buying it.

I really enjoy the interaction between your dad and Brian Lohnes at the U.S. Nationals.

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#2588658 - 12/07/18 01:31 PM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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Well the original owner of those two Superbirds that were on eBay a month or two ago sent the guy a letter from his lawyer about the "alleged falsehoods" in the ad but don't think it stopped anything.

This kind of thing happens all the time with old race cars, especially Grand National Stock cars. Not a ton you can do other than what you are doing, get the word out. Some guys in the south were building fake GN Ford's for years that people know are fakes but they still keep getting sold as the real deal. It is important to stay on top of this. Friend said this about "clones", every clone becomes a real car over time.
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#2588673 - 12/07/18 02:05 PM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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Why is it listed as 1970 when it has the front clip for a 73 or 74 and Quarters and tail panel as well. Were your dads a 1970 or 73-74? If so his was a 1970n this is a piss pour Clone
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#2588678 - 12/07/18 02:16 PM Re: What to do when someone claims their car is your Dads car [Re: McCandlessboy]
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Back in the seventies they used to update the body to look like the newest version of the car,on racecars.
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