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Need Some Help.. Looking For SB Heads #2586179
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I am thinking about buying a new set of heads
for my street rod.. its a 416CI.. its been so
long since I bought ANYTHING new I dont even
know what heads are out there... can you guys
give me some ideas.. looking for alum SB stuff
TIA.. I have a couple of sets of MP heads now
but would like some newer stuff.. thanks
wave

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Only two new heads have come out since the Jurassic era.
The eddie Victors
The Trick Flow for SB
Victor is offset TF will take standard rockers and headers


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Re: Need Some Help.. Looking For SB Heads [Re: B3422W5] #2586238
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Originally Posted By B3422W5
Only two new heads have come out since the Jurassic era.
The eddie Victors
The Trick Flow for SB
Victor is offset TF will take standard rockers and headers
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Let’s restate this as the TrickFlow heads aren’t released yet. Maybe one of these days but they are now losing sales.


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Re: Need Some Help.. Looking For SB Heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2586254
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Hi Mike, if edelbrock-based stuff is of any interest I have -one- single p5153850 head. It's like edelbrock rpm but the pushrod pinch is totally gone, and the port is straight. For you it will be dirt cheap. You would have to come up with a matching one someplace. I'll text or email you pics, if interested give me a shout. Rich



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Last time I looked at SB stuff I came to the conclusion that Hughes Engines had some good options. They buy raw Edelbrock castings and finish them. I'd probably go that way if someone forced me to work on a SB engine. Other option would be to call Brian at IMM and ask him what he recommends. He always has some good SB thoughts.

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I'm not sure what Mr P would go backwards in cylinder head with ANY of the heads mentioned even if he has some lowly CI W-2 stuff laying around.


No way would I build an engine with OE architecture when I have the option of something else.

But that's just me.

Unless of course I wanted to keep the power down for whatever reason. They I'd look at other stuff.


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Right now I have 2 sets of W-2s and 1 set of
W-5s.. all of them ported.. all flowing over
300cfm.. my W-5s are almost 320 cfm.. I'm
just looking and wondering whats out there
wave

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Wha600t rpm range? Very good low rpm manners important? I hope to learn a bit from this discusion. Would a ported Magnum style head do the trick? Out of breath by 6500 maybe, but great torque/low rpm? I would guess 550 hp potential by 6000 rpm with a somewhat streetable cam.

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My stuff now days is injected and I am running
7200 rpms at the stripe and yes I want nice
drive ability.. right now it has some lope to
it and drives pretty nice.. I still want to
lean it down just a little
wave

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The CNC vic head is really a good head.

Nice casting and can make 750 HP With a small cross section. 2.5"
With the stock program.

My program can make 1000+ HP with the pro port casting.

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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
I am thinking about buying a new set of heads
for my street rod.. its a 416CI.. its been so
long since I bought ANYTHING new I dont even
know what heads are out there... can you guys
give me some ideas.. looking for alum SB stuff
TIA.. I have a couple of sets of MP heads now
but would like some newer stuff.. thanks
wave
This is what I ran on my 300 Mike. They are Edelbrocks fully CNC ported by Hughes. I never flowed them but Hughes claimed 300cfm @.700 lift.

CNC eddyports.jpgeddy2.jpgeddy5.jpg

Fastest 300
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What exactly is the goal? What parts are we n the 416?
We could use a bigger picture of it all.

FWIW, which ain’t worth much, LOL!
https://promaxxperformance.com/product/shocker-185-mopar-cnc/

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Originally Posted By Rob C
What exactly is the goal? What parts are we n the 416?
We could use a bigger picture of it all.

FWIW, which ain’t worth much, LOL!
https://promaxxperformance.com/product/shocker-185-mopar-cnc/


This is my street rod.. it goes to the track a
few times but mainly just street driven.. most
of the parts I had in the shop so I built a
spare engine so I could get stuff out of the
way.. I will put it in maybe next spring when
I get back home.. If I want I might put back
in the race car but set it up for street
driving.. right now I have W-5s on it
wave

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OK, it’s a 416 w/W5 heads on it now.
I have to ask about the cam duration and gears.

I don’t see a problem running the W5 on the street. Is there something about the head that gives you the willies not to run it? If your in the frame of mind that you have an overkill set of heads on a mild engine, I get that, but, I would say not to sweat it. The excellent head will help carry the smaller cam longer and be a really efficient and effective package.

Without knowing about the rear gear and stall rate, just purely for example, a small lowly hyd. cam like 230*/236*/240* intake duration will work for the street like we all know how it does and the heads will help carry the rpm range further up the rpm scale. The duration is super streetable with great top end with the heads you have on there now.

I really don’t know what to tell ya there buddy. Time for a little soul searching. wink

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Mike, if your not in a hurry then you may want to check out the TF heads when they become available, if they did their homework on the smallblock heads like they did on the Bigblock heads then they will be a nice street/strip deal.


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