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Re: molnar cranks [Re: BradH] #2584173
11/28/18 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BradH
Any truth to some comments I've heard that K1's QC has gone down since Tom Molnar sold it and started his new company?


I don't have both pre and post Tom-departure parts to compare.

However I haven't found any issues with the K1 I picked up recently.

I will admit the only reason I chose it is because it was $150 less than the Molnar, which I'll gladly put towards some other small aspect of the build. If I needed another one today, I would purchase it again without a second thought.

I'm using it with Tom's connecting rods, so I do have some faith in his products, both past and current.

Personally I don't think you could go wrong with either one.


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Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2584179
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I like Molnar cranks and rods. I used both in my last low deck 470 engine. That engine made 750 hp on the dyno and everything ran smooth as silk. Rear main seal was dry as a bone which is important too.

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Re: molnar cranks [Re: racerx] #2584229
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Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By jyrki
I have used them in boosted application. Zero problems with the crank. Calculated 1660hp.


Thaxs this what I wanting to hear. up


Well then....I guess it's time to step up the fogger jets! Zero issues with my low deck 4.15" Molnar crank. Just a small shot of spray....for now.

Re: molnar cranks [Re: challenger451ci] #2584269
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Originally Posted By challenger451ci
Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By jyrki
I have used them in boosted application. Zero problems with the crank. Calculated 1660hp.


Thaxs this what I wanting to hear. up


Well then....I guess it's time to step up the fogger jets! Zero issues with my low deck 4.15" Molnar crank. Just a small shot of spray....for now.


Same thoughts here. My biggest concern is the factory block now. shake_head


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Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2584434
11/28/18 10:57 PM
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I was just emailing them again and they said they do not have any center counterweighted cranks. They would be willing to make not one but min five from billet and just stated they would be very expensive.

Re: molnar cranks [Re: STEFF] #2584477
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Originally Posted By STEFF
Tom Molnar started/owned K1. He then sold it to Carrillo, and started Molnar Technologies.


I thought it was Weisco...


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Re: molnar cranks [Re: astjp2] #2584600
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Originally Posted By astjp2
Originally Posted By STEFF
Tom Molnar started/owned K1. He then sold it to Carrillo, and started Molnar Technologies.


I thought it was Weisco...


It is...


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: molnar cranks [Re: Eric] #2584725
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W I S E C O is how you spell it. If you're wise.

ANY forged crank that costs less than $1000 got its start in China. I thought it was common knowledge by now.

Most, if not all, of the cast aftermarket cranks were poured in China.

Why China? Because most Americans won't work in a hot, dirty, dangerous place like a foundry. You have to pay them extra. Then, you have the EPA regulating what they can waste into the air and water. Ever wonder why getting new blocks is so difficult? Ever wonder why American foundries are overbooked? They are a dying breed, even as demand stays the same or goes up.

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Originally Posted By dogdays
W I S E C O is how you spell it. If you're wise.

ANY forged crank that costs less than $1000 got its start in China. I thought it was common knowledge by now.

Most, if not all, of the cast aftermarket cranks were poured in China.

Why China? Because most Americans won't work in a hot, dirty, dangerous place like a foundry. You have to pay them extra. Then, you have the EPA regulating what they can waste into the air and water. Ever wonder why getting new blocks is so difficult? Ever wonder why American foundries are overbooked? They are a dying breed, even as demand stays the same or goes up.

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Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2584777
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I thought molnar and k1(wiseco) were made at the same place by the same company. The molnar box in the pic above looks exactly like a k1 rod box I have... just doesn't say molnar.

Edit: boxes aren't the same, was thinking of another set of rods I had.

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Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2584787
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I recently ordered K1 crank and Molnar rods at the same time.

The crank drop shipped from Wiseco in Ohio, the rods shipped from Molnar in Michigan.

I have very limited knowledge of the performance business these days but feel it's probably pretty safe to assume these two companies are closely related, and there is a good chance they share some intelligence.









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Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2585066
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Currently building a 540 for a blown application. When I called molnar they said the crank could handle it. Machine shop checked it-everything good.I'm having a second keyway cut into it. The indy block on the other hand.....

Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2585439
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Thaxs for that info. I'm going to ask my motor builder about these cranks and see what he thinks. I'm getting good reviews on this up

Re: molnar cranks [Re: mopar dave] #2585587
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I just received my Molnar Crank yesterday and I only unpacked for a quick glance it looks awesome


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Re: molnar cranks [Re: racerx] #2585591
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Originally Posted By racerx
Thaxs for that info. I'm going to ask my motor builder about these cranks and see what he thinks. I'm getting good reviews on this up

Why not call Tom himself? He'll ask you about your combo and give an honest answer. I'm sure he knows way more about cranks than all of us and most engine builders.
Doug

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Originally Posted By dvw
Originally Posted By racerx
Thaxs for that info. I'm going to ask my motor builder about these cranks and see what he thinks. I'm getting good reviews on this up

Why not call Ton himself? He'll ask you about your combo and give an honest answer. I'm sure he knows way more about cranks than all of us and most engine builders.
Doug

iagree that will be the call to make up but just like to get an opinion from a respectable well known engine builder here ………….

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