Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: SunnyMopar]
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I would spend a little more and go the stroker, check out 440source for a good rotating assembly, maybe a nice 10-1 500 cuber, nothing crazy. Trick flow for a set of heads.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: SunnyMopar]
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Why did you start two threads asking the same questions?
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: SunnyMopar]
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11/30/18 10:04 AM
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Hi! building a 440 and wanted all opinions and advice!
440 Build- Stock or Stroke ? for a nice street car! And few times a year take it to the track!
Any one that has rebuild their 440 engine for a 70 Cuda 4sp-?? I have a 70 Block (NOT HP) ready to be built! But not sure if should build stock- 375-400 hp Or stoker- 400-500 hp build
Dont want a radical car, one I can enjoy as a driver daily for Spring/ summer & Fall!!!
I have spoken to Mancini racing: they say! The cost is very close to same Stock or Stroker build!
Keep in mind cuda is "non- matching" numbers! Please give some opinions & advice!
Thank you Greatly appreciate it! Sonny Sonny , Do you have a complete 440 core to work with? If so then leave it stock stroke. It really doesn't sound like you need or even want a whole lot of power. If all you have is a bare block then you may even want to consider a good small block. J.Rob
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: RAMM]
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Hi! building a 440 and wanted all opinions and advice!
440 Build- Stock or Stroke ? for a nice street car! And few times a year take it to the track!
Any one that has rebuild their 440 engine for a 70 Cuda 4sp-?? I have a 70 Block (NOT HP) ready to be built! But not sure if should build stock- 375-400 hp Or stoker- 400-500 hp build
Dont want a radical car, one I can enjoy as a driver daily for Spring/ summer & Fall!!!
I have spoken to Mancini racing: they say! The cost is very close to same Stock or Stroker build!
Keep in mind cuda is "non- matching" numbers! Please give some opinions & advice!
Thank you Greatly appreciate it! Sonny Sonny , Do you have a complete 440 core to work with? If so then leave it stock stroke. It really doesn't sound like you need or even want a whole lot of power. If all you have is a bare block then you may even want to consider a good small block. J.Rob My thoughts exactly especially with a 4spd. A nice stock type 10:1 440 with flat tops and even some worked 452 iron heads that can be found cheap will do, or Eddy's/440source heads, it'll have enough power to get you to mid 12's on those odd trips to the track as long as you can hook it up.....my 2's.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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11/30/18 11:03 AM
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If you already have a good crank and rods, and just need to punch the block and get new pistons, I'd leave it at that. If all you have is an empty block and are planning on buying a rotating kit anyway, I'd go with a stroker kit. You won't spend much more, and easier to make the bigger power without having to sacrifice drivability. Pretty much sums it up. If you have a good crank and rods that only need minor touch up, use them. If you have to buy crank and rods, I'd go for a mild stroker route as it would only be a little bit more.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: SunnyMopar]
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Which stock 440 had "good rods"?
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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I look at it this way. I ran 9.80's back in the late 1980's with TRW pistons, stock crank, stock recon rods with good bolts, and ported 906 heads. If I wanted 500 horsepower or less I know I could easily do it with a stock crank build. With the nice after market rods available now I would never spend a cent doing what we used to do to stock rods. Figure out YOUR budget and how fast YOU want to go and have fun with your project. Some of the slower builds are the funnest builds. If possible plan on aluminum heads as there a LOTS of budget minded options out there. Sure beats spending money on old cast iron upgrading them and they flow a lot better too.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
[Re: SunnyMopar]
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11/30/18 03:41 PM
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I 30 days all those stroker kits go up 25 percent, about $700.
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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I 30 days all those stroker kits go up 25 percent, about $700. Are the 'source ones going up?
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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$2,249 440 Source Stroker kit gives you modern components. Full radius crank, H beam rods and lightweight pistons. This was very expensive full race stuff years ago. And it comes balanced with rod and main bearings and freight to your doorstep. To me stock internals are for the dumpster. You will have more power than ever dreamed of. I would use the 512. It's a good time to be building an engine.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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I 30 days all those stroker kits go up 25 percent, about $700. Are the 'source ones going up? Brandon posted a "heads up" here about his prices going up weeks (?) ago.
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Re: 440 Build- Stock or Stroke ?
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For 400-500hp, other than upgrading the rods/pistons I'd use the 3.75 stroke rotating assembly and put entry level aftermarket aluminum heads on it. I agree with this, very simple.
Have a great day Iowan
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