Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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A #226 throttle plate was used in early front and rear carburetors. These had a tendency to stick and a Chrysler Technical Bulletin was issued to change to a #199 plate after date code 3149. I got New Holley plates (p/n 9R199V) from Holley Technical Support for my carbs. The hole size in the plates is very dependent on the engine specs (CR, cam etc). You want the center carb plates to be just uncovering the transfer slot at idle. This will give you adjustability on the idle mixture screws. It is a real trial and error to get it right because you have to remove the center carb to see where the plates are positioned. Jim [img] https://beta-static.photobucket.com/imag...&fit=bounds[/img]
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 01:49 AM
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A #226 throttle plate was used in early front and rear carburetors. These had a tendency to stick and a Chrysler Technical Bulletin was issued to change to a #199 plate after date code 3149. I got New Holley plates (p/n 9R199V) from Holley Technical Support for my carbs. The hole size in the plates is very dependent on the engine specs (CR, cam etc). You want the center carb plates to be just uncovering the transfer slot at idle. This will give you adjustability on the idle mixture screws. It is a real trial and error to get it right because you have to remove the center carb to see where the plates are positioned. Jim [img] https://beta-static.photobucket.com/imag...&fit=bounds[/img] And here it is if not too small to read.
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 03:04 AM
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A #226 throttle plate was used in early front and rear carburetors. These had a tendency to stick and a Chrysler Technical Bulletin was issued to change to a #199 plate after date code 3149. I got New Holley plates (p/n 9R199V) from Holley Technical Support for my carbs. The hole size in the plates is very dependent on the engine specs (CR, cam etc). You want the center carb plates to be just uncovering the transfer slot at idle. This will give you adjustability on the idle mixture screws. It is a real trial and error to get it right because you have to remove the center carb to see where the plates are positioned. Jim [img] https://beta-static.photobucket.com/imag...&fit=bounds[/img] I'm aware of the transfer slot/bypass hole size/cam/compression ratio, etc. relationship. What I'm trying to accomplish is to get the carbs back to somewhere close to the original baseline as far as the holes in the throttle plates are concerned. I imagine the holes in my outboard carb throttle plates have been opened up, I was wondering how much. Did those #199 throttle plates come from Holley with a bypass hole drilled? Do you know what size they were? Mine have the #226 plates installed so I'll probably replace them while the carbs are apart.
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 03:08 AM
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We need a tech archive on what everything stock should measure. FWIW, my stock 1970 throttle plates have .078 front and rear holes, .080 on the center. On an engine with a 292 duration cam it needs bigger holes to get the center carb shut where it should be, been working on that .002 at a time. That's the info I was looking for. Thanks. Some of the pics I've seen it appears there were no holes drilled in the center carb throttle plates.
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 11:07 AM
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The 226 plate hole diameter is 0.076", could be 0.078, but that drill does not quit fit in my plates. Close enough either way.
Note that they are drilled perpendicular to the base with the throttle in the closed position, not perpendicular the plate itself.
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 11:31 AM
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We need a tech archive on what everything stock should measure. FWIW, my stock 1970 throttle plates have .078 front and rear holes, .080 on the center. On an engine with a 292 duration cam it needs bigger holes to get the center carb shut where it should be, been working on that .002 at a time. A little more.
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Re: Six Pack Throttle Plates
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11/22/18 11:42 PM
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[/quote] I'm aware of the transfer slot/bypass hole size/cam/compression ratio, etc. relationship. What I'm trying to accomplish is to get the carbs back to somewhere close to the original baseline as far as the holes in the throttle plates are concerned. I imagine the holes in my outboard carb throttle plates have been opened up, I was wondering how much. Did those #199 throttle plates come from Holley with a bypass hole drilled? Do you know what size they were? Mine have the #226 plates installed so I'll probably replace them while the carbs are apart. [/quote] The 199 plates had no holes. I drilled them 5/64" (0.078") on an angle [img] https://beta-static.photobucket.com/imag...&fit=bounds[/img]
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