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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: challenger70] #2533842
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Originally Posted By challenger70
Ordered my setup from Cass, went with the 2 piece drilled/slotted bear's. Very happy to have another part of the Charger equation solved. Thanks to all involved. up


Cool deal. I have my set all mounted up but not sure when the car will move under its own power. I've been focused on other projects for a bit now so it could be another 6 months.

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2533981
08/09/18 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I had a set of the Fatman knuckles for a while. I refused to put anything that ugly and stupid looking on my car so I sold them. I don't know if they work or not but they are as ugly as a high school shop project.


That is funny. Great insult !

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: Kern Dog] #2534102
08/10/18 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Originally Posted By AndyF
I had a set of the Fatman knuckles for a while. I refused to put anything that ugly and stupid looking on my car so I sold them. I don't know if they work or not but they are as ugly as a high school shop project.


That is funny. Great insult !


haha

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2575878
11/08/18 02:31 PM
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Been busy doing other stuff but got back to work on the Duster the other day. Here is the Viper kit mounted on the car. Just need to mount up some wheels and drop it back on the ground.

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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2577233
11/11/18 08:14 PM
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Looks great Andy. Eagerly awaiting updates.


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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2578267
11/14/18 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I'm working with Cass (DoctorDiff) to build a Viper based front disc kit for my Duster. Plan is to test it out on my car and if it all looks good then Cass might put it into production. Here are a couple of photos showing the first prototype mounted on the bench. This setup uses a DoctorDiff hub, Baer rotor, Viper caliper and an AR Engineering caliper bracket. Looks to me like it is going to work just fine. Should have it mounted up on the car in a few weeks.


What size wheels will fit with these? I like the idea.

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2578621
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17 inch minimum. The hub design that Cass uses has stock dimensions. The rotor hub is 0.300 thick so that means the wheel mounting surface is moved outboard by 0.300 inches. So if you want the center of the wheel to be in the stock location you need 0.800 inches of offset. Obviously if you want something else then you just order what you want/need.

Cass puts a long flat section on his hub so you can use a fairly wide spacer to move the wheel location around. I designed up some 1/4 inch spacers that will be hub-centric so a person could stack them if wanted.

My Duster is more of a street/strip type of car so I'm going to run 17x6.5 wheels with 205/55-17 tires. For a B body car that was street driven I'd recommend a 17x8 wheel with a 235/55-17 tire. If it is a track car then go hog wild with whatever you can stuff under the fender.

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2578647
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Originally Posted By AndyF
17 inch minimum.


Thank you!

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2583551
11/27/18 03:00 AM
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I got the hoses installed. The hose brackets on my car were a D shape so the new hoses wouldn't fit. I didn't want to drill out the frame bracket so I sent the hoses to the machine shop and had them machined to a matching D shape. Other than that it was a simple bolt in operation!

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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2595107
12/21/18 04:17 PM
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The Weld wheels finally showed up. Took about 5 weeks from the time I ordered them. They are 17 x 6.5 with 4.80 inches of backspace. That gives me a small amount of room for a spacer so I should be able to put the wheel on the car exactly where I want it. I'm planning to run a 205/55-17 tire up front. I'm thinking that will clear the Duster fender and still provide me with decent handling.

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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2595152
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Looks good.

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2615219
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Beautiful and purposeful looking, nice choice!

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2619658
02/11/19 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted By AndyF
If you have A body knuckles then use them. Given a choice, I prefer the FMJ, but A body should work. You might need to grind a little clearance for the caliper bracket when using the shorter A body knuckle. Just depends on the forging.


Will the FMJ spindle work on an A-body?

Kevin

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: Twostick] #2619670
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Originally Posted By Twostick
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If you have A body knuckles then use them. Given a choice, I prefer the FMJ, but A body should work. You might need to grind a little clearance for the caliper bracket when using the shorter A body knuckle. Just depends on the forging.


Will the FMJ spindle work on an A-body?

Kevin


Don't they look like they work in the pictures?

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2628118
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Here are a couple more pictures. The wheel needs to be chosen with care. You'll need clearance for the caliper and you'll need a deep enough center to cover up the long nose on the hub. I'm using a Weld S71 wheel in this picture. The wheels are 17x6.5 with a 215/50-17 tire.

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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2628397
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Looks great Andy. Any idea when the kit is going to be available and if you can get it without the calipers?


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Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2628401
03/03/19 08:13 PM
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The new Viper brake kit is currently available without calipers. See below:

https://www.doctordiff.com/viper-style-13-front-disc-brake-kit.html

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03/04/19 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted By DoctorDiff
The new Viper brake kit is currently available without calipers. See below:

https://www.doctordiff.com/viper-style-13-front-disc-brake-kit.html
Hi Cass thanks for getting that up, just a quick Q. Is that only for the 03-05 Viper Calipers? Thanks, Steve

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Hi Steve,

The kit uses '03 and newer Viper front calipers.

Cass

Re: New Viper brake kit [Re: AndyF] #2629006
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I use caliper part number 5136152AA and 5136153AA. Those are for the red ones. I think there is another part number for black calipers but I've never bought the black ones.

I'm not sure what years they fit. Some online catalogs show them as 2005 to 2017 while others show them fitting other years.

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