Best valve train set up?
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i need some advice. I,m looking to upgrade my valve train set up. I'm still running stock set up. Its a 30 over 440,10 1/2:1 ,292 purple shaft,727, 3:23 gear. The car runs low 12's now. Its a street car and i drive it everywhere. What brand do you guys recomomend? i would rather spend the money and buy the good stuff once. Thanks...joe
66 Dodge Coronet 500
440w/727
11:10 30 over 440 w/292 purple shaft,stock Eddy heads,3:23,full exhaust
Best ET. 12.38 @110 in street trim
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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11/11/18 09:46 PM
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The best you can afford. I think the starting point would be Harland Sharps. For your deal deal Comp stainless might be a very good choice though I haven't used them yet but I'm sure Fast68 won't steer anyone on here wrong
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Re: Best valve train set up?
[Re: bigblk66_coronet]
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11/11/18 10:08 PM
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Yes run it by Dwayne (fast68plymouth). 1.6's may or may not benefit you. & there might not be enough gain to justify spending on this area & it might be better spent on another area/system (I always attack the weakest/needing change area/system. Keep an open mind.
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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Steel will last forever, aluminum should be thrown away when it makes you nervous. My old pump gas Duster motor had over 3000 hard street miles and a bunch of both 1/8 and 1/4 mile passes shifting at or above 7000 RPM in 1st and 2nd gear and crossing the 1/4 mile finish line above 6500 RPM with a set of Harland Sharp 1.65 ratio rocker arms, that motor had a .700+ net lift solid roller cam with over 650 Lbs. open pressure. I did freshen it twice and was able to reshim the first set of valve springs and replaced them on the third freshen when I replaced the Eddy RPM heads with a better bigger set of Indy SR M.W ports, same rocker arms I never had to worry about them before I sold that car My latest bracket motor does have a set of steel Jesel paired shaft rocker arms on it and my next all out go fast motor will probably have a set of pair shaft T&D chrome moly rocker arm set up on it with near or over 900 Lbs. on the seats to keep the roller lifters on the cam lobes all the time, especially above 8000 RPM Don't buy the best price rocker arm set up ever you do get what you pay for on most decent race parts, but not on the cheap stuff though
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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11/12/18 11:38 AM
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aluminum is supposed to have a finite work life Much like "the sun is supposed to be hot".
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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11/12/18 12:13 PM
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i need some advice. I,m looking to upgrade my valve train set up. I'm still running stock set up. Its a 30 over 440,10 1/2:1 ,292 purple shaft,727, 3:23 gear. The car runs low 12's now. Its a street car and i drive it everywhere. What brand do you guys recomomend? i would rather spend the money and buy the good stuff once. Thanks...joe Contact Mike at B3 racing engines and have him set you up with a set of rockers and his geometry correct kit at the same time and save yourself a huge hassle. I've run unbushed alumni rockers with as high as 320 on the seat and 800 over the nose and never hurt one from spring pressure. A couple of lifter failures killed some though. But that's not an issue. If you do get some wear in an aluminum rocker you can send them to RAS and get them bushed. I rather like stainless steel rockers the best. Like I said, call Mike and see what he says. IIRC he is a dealer for PRW rockers and again, IIRC he likes the PRW stainless rockers. I'm not a fan of needle bearings in a rocker arm. EDIT: or see if mprhound above will sell you his RAS rockers. Those things were beautiful pieces. You will still need the B3 geometry correction kit though. In fact, you need that with ANY rocker you buy, and color and/or materiel doesn't matter.
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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11/12/18 12:59 PM
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All good points here but let me ask a question. what are you trying to accomplish? If yo are not having a problem with your stock stuff with your mild build why spend that kind of money on something you will not see any gain.If you are looking for more performance maybe take the car to chassis dyno and see if you can get more from a tune,or look into see where you are lacking in set up and go from there. Just my 2cents.
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Re: Best valve train set up?
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1 vote for the Comp ultra pros For a car that is driven everywhere, I couldn't agree more!! I have Comp ultras on my 505ci with over 15,000 miles on them with zero issues.
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