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Tig welder recommendations #2570767
10/28/18 10:37 PM
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I'm looking for a quality entry level tig welder, I will be doing Chro moly and aluminum work.
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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570772
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I got one of the Vulcan ProTig 200 units from Harbor Freight. It does steel and aluminum, uses both 110 and 220. Does decent job for the money. I got mine as an open box special during a parking lot sale. $450.

Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570773
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A Miller syncrowave 210 is what was recommended to me, so that's what I got. But I am not very experienced, so I can't provide much feedback.


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570775
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Entry level tig welder is like an entry level helmet.

Go big or go home.


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570779
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I have a Miller Syncrowave 250DX that I got a great deal on when the plant I worked at closed. If I were buying new I'd buy an inverter machine with pulse, my 250 draws over 90 amps at full load.

Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: jcc] #2570791
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Originally Posted By jcc
Entry level tig welder is like an entry level helmet.

Go big or go home.

iagree thumbs
If your gonna buy a welder...buy a welder you will have for as long as YOU want it. I too recommend Miller, I've had and used other brands but Miller is what is in my shop now and in the future (new purchases). And like Racing helmets, Cheep helmets are for Cheep heads...what are your eyes worth.


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570793
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First decision is 110 or 220. 110 will limit you and is not something I would want to use on chassis tubing. While I'm old school and struggle through with an old Airco square wave transformer unit, I have used inverter units on steels and aluminum and they are fine. Miller does the Diversion and Lincoln does the Squarewave 200. Or if you have the budget, look at better units. I would prefer a good used higher end machine than a new imported toy. You get what you pay for.


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570794
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220volt is what I want.
I'm thinking in the $1500- $2000 range

Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570798
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I have a Miller Synchrowave 180,older pre-electronic control panel.Good welder and trouble free.You may want a higher amp version and maybe a water cooled torch for chassis work though.
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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RTSrunner] #2570835
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If you get something around the 200 amp range, it will do most of the stuff you need. I've got something similar the Everlast units, but if your budget allows, a Miller, Lincoln or Fronius. We have a EWM machine at work, it's faultless, but may not be in your price range. Jody @ welding tips and tricks has done a lot of testing and reviews. Check out his YouTube channel


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570836
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I paid a trade of labor and some tools for my Lincoln 225 tig, if you do thick aluminum, consider getting a liquid cooled torch. Tim


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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570854
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Lincoln tig 200 is what I bought.


who is that guy?
Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570879
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Maybe look into the new Miller 215? Right around $2K with the TIG package. It's a 'multi process' machine so if you want TIG only then it might not be what you want. Looks like an OK deal to me though.

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Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2570898
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Consider the features you may (or may not) need, now or in the future. Wide range of ac frequency and balance: many are limited. Adjustable gas pre and post flow: many are preset. Spot welding feature: you can use the pedal to simulate, but if you're going to hang body panels, it might be useful. Watch out for lower quality, non Miller and Lincoln protocol attachments. (Gas connections, current connections). Finally, warranty and reputation. I've owned both Miller (Syncrowave 180 transformer), and currently, Lincoln Squarewave Tig 200 (inverter). Close to a year, and it's perfect for me. I've used it successfully on both 110 and 230. I don't have one bad thing to say, except, the power cord and argon gas line are stiff plastic, that suck in my unheated garage. The pedal and torch are excellent quality. HOWEVER, I DO wish it has a wider range of ac freq and balance (It hasn't been a problem, but, it would be a good experience, to be able to apply different settings to different materials and joints), and adjustable pre/post gas flow. The gas flow valve isn't cheap, but the adjustment is herky jerky. Once it's set, it's fine. BUT, as the wish list grows, price goes up. This seems to be where the off shore units complete. As mentioned, check out Jody, members here, and then do some shopping. Good luck!

Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2571035
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I bought an AHP Alpha‑TIG 200X: https://www.amazon.com/AHP-AlphaTIG-Stick-Welder-WARRANTY/dp/B076BSD6PG. Check out the reviews - lots of people having good luck with them, not just hobbyists.

The prices vary based on availability (they tend to sell out quickly, and have limited production runs), but are generally around $800 and have lots of nice features. The pedal it comes with is low quality, otherwise it's a lot of welder for the money.

I know of a chassis shop that uses an Eastwood TIG 200 AC/DC, and their workmanship is second to none. If you are planning large production runs, I'd get the red or blue boxes. Otherwise, I'd spend my money somewhere else.


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try to buy a big name. I am a welder and I have to say the prices of the cheap stuff are tempting for home use. Out of all, the Eastwood stuff I find most interesting. Guys that have had issues with them say the customer service is excellent. With that said, I make a living using Lincoln and miller so I’m going to try to avoid that knock off stuff. I just replaced my little mig and plasma cutter both with miller.

Watch those little multiprocess machines everyone seems to be coming out with, like that miller 215, I think most are dc only with no hi frequency. Good luck doing aluminum tig with that. Also with no hi freq, you are stuck with lift arc or scratch start. Neither are the end of the world, but if I’m going to spend money on a tig, I want ac and hi freq, otherwise you can just scratch start off a dc stick machine.

Both Lincoln and miller have had some good rebates going, just make sure you buy from an authorized retailer to get the rebate, and warranty.

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Quote:
entry level Chromoly and aluminum work.


Kind of a contradiction there !!

I bought a Thermal Arc TA186 a few years back. It has all the features that the small inverter Millers and Lincolns have but at a fraction of the cost. It's served me well. I added a pedal and swapped out the hose and torch that came with it - nickel and dime items.

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That thermal arc is a great machine

Re: Tig welder recommendations [Re: RV2] #2571359
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Isn't every major brand of Tig Welder or most any welder for that matter, made in China now a days?

I asked this same question to the guys at JMR Manufacturing https://jmrmfg.com the same company that makes high quality tube benders, notchers and they also weld up trophy trucks. They stated that they use Harbor Freight welders themselves.

I did some research and was looking at some HTP Invertig tig welders that are made in Italy that look promising.


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