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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566954
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#1 you are not in charge and have no right to tell others not to post.
#2 No one here owes you anything, but you act like your entitled to instant attention.
#3 All of these topics, from exhaust to tires to engine builds have been covered many times and are readily available by using the search function.
#4 Your lack of knowledge about the effects of cam choices and how seemingly minor changes(to you) in duration, can have a major effect on streetability. Cams can be confusing to most of us, but you can educate yourself by doing some basic research on many of the cam manufacturers sites, to help you better understand the good advice you are being given.
#5 Stop shotgunning so many different topics at one time, stick to one topic until you learn what you need to know, then move on.
You are beginning to wear out your welcome here and pretty soon, because of your attitude, you won't be getting any help at all.
This sight is a great resource with many knowlegable people who will bend over backwards to help, but you need to learn to Focus, Listen, and show some Respect to those who are taking THEIR time to help YOU out.
You get what you put into it.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566958
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The 240s are not too big. Theyre made for a hi po 440.

Yes, you could go too big. Heads like Brodix or Predators would be too big.

Go with the 240s....


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566959
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Just a question. What is your definition of daily driver? Mine is one that I depend on every day to and from work. Maybe I'm getting old but I wouldn't want to drive an old 500 hp hotrod every time I leave the house. Do you have another ride? Just wondering while reading your posts.


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: Lee446] #2566970
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Originally Posted By Lee446
#1 you are not in charge and have no right to tell others not to post.
#2 No one here owes you anything, but you act like your entitled to instant attention.
#3 All of these topics, from exhaust to tires to engine builds have been covered many times and are readily available by using the search function.
#4 Your lack of knowledge about the effects of cam choices and how seemingly minor changes(to you) in duration, can have a major effect on streetability. Cams can be confusing to most of us, but you can educate yourself by doing some basic research on many of the cam manufacturers sites, to help you better understand the good advice you are being given.
#5 Stop shotgunning so many different topics at one time, stick to one topic until you learn what you need to know, then move on.
You are beginning to wear out your welcome here and pretty soon, because of your attitude, you won't be getting any help at all.
This sight is a great resource with many knowlegable people who will bend over backwards to help, but you need to learn to Focus, Listen, and show some Respect to those who are taking THEIR time to help YOU out.
You get what you put into it.

If someone, like you, has no intentions other than being an a**hole, whats the point in posting? I dont think anyone owes me anything. I understand many topics have been talked about. But alot of these are kind of specific. And any other post that is even close to what im talking about has a million different complicated answers because they all think the OP is talking about somehing else. Thats why i wanted to be simple. I understand “small” changes have big effects. Thats why im asking how much of an effect it would have. I understand the difference between 250 and 220 duration. I was asking about how it affects operating rpm. Because ive never seen operating rpm explained. Im going through different topics at the same time so i can get everything planned and moved on asap. My attitude was fine until people started essentially calling me an idiot. Of course ill respond with attitude. So dont act like this and expect that i do nothing. Or think that when i respond like this im the bad guy. I have listened to everyone. Notice how the people that actually helped i responded to and took their advice. Especially the people that helped answer my questions.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: carnut68] #2566971
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Originally Posted By carnut68
Just a question. What is your definition of daily driver? Mine is one that I depend on every day to and from work. Maybe I'm getting old but I wouldn't want to drive an old 500 hp hotrod every time I leave the house. Do you have another ride? Just wondering while reading your posts.

Its my actual daily driver, but i have a jeep i can drive when its in the shop/if theres a problem.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: steve660] #2566973
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Originally Posted By steve660
The 240s are not too big. Theyre made for a hi po 440.

Yes, you could go too big. Heads like Brodix or Predators would be too big.

Go with the 240s....

Just to make sure im getting this right: so 240 instead of 210 wont negatively affect daily driving?

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566975
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Dont use the 240 heads, use the 250 heads that came on the 1968 383 2bl they work great, get a purple shaft cam, the 3/4 one, problem solved.


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: CSK] #2566984
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Originally Posted By csk
Dont use the 240 heads, use the 250 heads that came on the 1968 383 2bl they work great, get a purple shaft cam, the 3/4 one, problem solved.


Agreed, it'll make an easy 500hp, probably MUCH more, and will be a wicked, yet tractable
street machine.

I would recommend Castrol KY assembly lube for installation of the cam--great stuff!

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566989
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What do you have to start with? Do you have an engine that's already out of a car? If not that's where I'd start. If you have 2k laying around get the trick flow heads. Reread all of the threads you started. You have been given a lot of good advice. Think reliability it's your daily driver. Good luck with your build.


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566991
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Nick - I see from your profile that you're a student, and if you are in fact college age, it makes a little more sense how you are conducting yourself here. If that's the case, most of the guys posting here are old enough to be your father and some your grandpa. Show some respect!

I was young once too, and made plenty of bad decisions along the way. The one thing I never did was disrespect my elders, and certainly not when I was the student and they were the teacher.

I'm going to make one more attempt to help guide you through this before you go and burn your bridges. (Hate to sound harsh but remember, you need us more than we need you). Refrain from your defensive responses, and go spend a few hours reading through the tech archives and learn how different things work. There's plenty of info on cams, heads and strokers, among other things.

Show some appreciation when people take the time to give you feedback, instead of just spinning their response into another question. And last but not least, don't start any new topics until you are able to understand that all of your questions thus far have already been answered multiple times. This is not a riddle, it's fact. Go back and read and re read.

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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2566994
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Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
Originally Posted By steve660
The 240s are not too big. Theyre made for a hi po 440.

Yes, you could go too big. Heads like Brodix or Predators would be too big.

Go with the 240s....

Just to make sure im getting this right: so 240 instead of 210 wont negatively affect daily driving?


210 is barely above or at stock and in my mind 240 and cubes is totally doable and my "weekly" driver runs a 470 stroker with 276-281 @ .050 12.1.1comp but I'm 3050 lbs roughly, run an 8" 5200+ vert and 4.10's so no problem............ thumbs


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: TonyS451] #2566995
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Originally Posted By TonyS451
Nick - I see from your profile that you're a student, and if you are in fact college age, it makes a little more sense how you are conducting yourself here. If that's the case, most of the guys posting here are old enough to be your father and some your grandpa. Show some respect!

I was young once too, and made plenty of bad decisions along the way. The one thing I never did was disrespect my elders, and certainly not when I was the student and they were the teacher.

I'm going to make one more attempt to help guide you through this before you go and burn your bridges. (Hate to sound harsh but remember, you need us more than we need you). Refrain from your defensive responses, and go spend a few hours reading through the tech archives and learn how different things work. There's plenty of info on cams, heads and strokers, among other things.

Show some appreciation when people take the time to give you feedback, instead of just spinning their response into another question. And last but not least, don't start any new topics until you are able to understand that all of your questions thus far have already been answered multiple times. This is not a riddle, it's fact. Go back and read and re read.

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What he says...^^^^ Great advise!! bow

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: TonyS451] #2567006
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Originally Posted By TonyS451
Nick - I see from your profile that you're a student, and if you are in fact college age, it makes a little more sense how you are conducting yourself here. If that's the case, most of the guys posting here are old enough to be your father and some your grandpa. Show some respect!

I was young once too, and made plenty of bad decisions along the way. The one thing I never did was disrespect my elders, and certainly not when I was the student and they were the teacher.

I'm going to make one more attempt to help guide you through this before you go and burn your bridges. (Hate to sound harsh but remember, you need us more than we need you). Refrain from your defensive responses, and go spend a few hours reading through the tech archives and learn how different things work. There's plenty of info on cams, heads and strokers, among other things.

Show some appreciation when people take the time to give you feedback, instead of just spinning their response into another question. And last but not least, don't start any new topics until you are able to understand that all of your questions thus far have already been answered multiple times. This is not a riddle, it's fact. Go back and read and re read.

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So youre trying to say im disrespectful for responding the way i did to people that were completely rude for no reason? When people have actually helped, or even tried to help i have said thank you. Not to the people that are rude. The #1 question i repeated multiple times was finally answered once today. I have done a hell of a lot of research. Just not experience to put together a build. Isnt that the point of this forum? I have been going over every one of my threads 24/7 even in school non stop. But so far its either someone saying to get exactly what they have, or someone being rude. Theyre have been a total of maybe 10 people that have actually at least tried to help.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2567008
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Remember, respect your elders and we are ALWAYS right.......... biggrin I was going to ask your age and now it also answers my questions as well and knew you were in your 20's or there bouts. We all learn the hard way and several on here have answered my dumb questions over the years and your skin will toughen just like mine did........Here to help, but be nice, chill and learn grasshopper.......... drinking


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2567031
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Theyre have been a total of maybe 10 people that have actually at least tried to help. [/quote]








Nick, I responded to your questions (10 times in the last few days and several times weeks ago in another one of your many threads) trying to help.

You expressed interest in the Lunati 60303 (we even discussed new vs old Lunati part numbers----remember?) cam which I run on a very similar 440 build.

Last night you seemed to get the answers you wanted from another member, and admonished the rest of us for not telling you the same info.

You then talked about me/us not posting on your thread.

I tried to help. You were rude. PERIOD......PERIOD.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2567032
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Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
Originally Posted By TonyS451
Nick - I see from your profile that you're a student, and if you are in fact college age, it makes a little more sense how you are conducting yourself here. If that's the case, most of the guys posting here are old enough to be your father and some your grandpa. Show some respect!

I was young once too, and made plenty of bad decisions along the way. The one thing I never did was disrespect my elders, and certainly not when I was the student and they were the teacher.

I'm going to make one more attempt to help guide you through this before you go and burn your bridges. (Hate to sound harsh but remember, you need us more than we need you). Refrain from your defensive responses, and go spend a few hours reading through the tech archives and learn how different things work. There's plenty of info on cams, heads and strokers, among other things.

Show some appreciation when people take the time to give you feedback, instead of just spinning their response into another question. And last but not least, don't start any new topics until you are able to understand that all of your questions thus far have already been answered multiple times. This is not a riddle, it's fact. Go back and read and re read.

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So youre trying to say im disrespectful for responding the way i did to people that were completely rude for no reason? When people have actually helped, or even tried to help i have said thank you. Not to the people that are rude. The #1 question i repeated multiple times was finally answered once today. I have done a hell of a lot of research. Just not experience to put together a build. Isnt that the point of this forum? I have been going over every one of my threads 24/7 even in school non stop. But so far its either someone saying to get exactly what they have, or someone being rude. Theyre have been a total of maybe 10 people that have actually at least tried to help.


Many people TRIED to help you, but you didn’t take their advise. You were even given direct links to engine builds.
Just because YOU don’t like the answer to a question, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2567047
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda

Theyre have been a total of maybe 10 people that have actually at least tried to help. [/quote]








Nick, I responded to your questions (10 times in the last few days and several times weeks ago in another one of your many threads) trying to help.

You expressed interest in the Lunati 60303 (we even discussed new vs old Lunati part numbers----remember?) cam which I run on a very similar 440 build.

Last night you seemed to get the answers you wanted from another member, and admonished the rest of us for not telling you the same info.

You then talked about me/us not posting on your thread.

I tried to help. You were rude. PERIOD......PERIOD. [/quote]
Yes. You were pretty helpful. Obviously didnt answer every possible question but i dont expect that or anything. You were rude when u replied on this thread when i first started it.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2567051
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
Originally Posted By TonyS451
Nick - I see from your profile that you're a student, and if you are in fact college age, it makes a little more sense how you are conducting yourself here. If that's the case, most of the guys posting here are old enough to be your father and some your grandpa. Show some respect!

I was young once too, and made plenty of bad decisions along the way. The one thing I never did was disrespect my elders, and certainly not when I was the student and they were the teacher.

I'm going to make one more attempt to help guide you through this before you go and burn your bridges. (Hate to sound harsh but remember, you need us more than we need you). Refrain from your defensive responses, and go spend a few hours reading through the tech archives and learn how different things work. There's plenty of info on cams, heads and strokers, among other things.

Show some appreciation when people take the time to give you feedback, instead of just spinning their response into another question. And last but not least, don't start any new topics until you are able to understand that all of your questions thus far have already been answered multiple times. This is not a riddle, it's fact. Go back and read and re read.

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So youre trying to say im disrespectful for responding the way i did to people that were completely rude for no reason? When people have actually helped, or even tried to help i have said thank you. Not to the people that are rude. The #1 question i repeated multiple times was finally answered once today. I have done a hell of a lot of research. Just not experience to put together a build. Isnt that the point of this forum? I have been going over every one of my threads 24/7 even in school non stop. But so far its either someone saying to get exactly what they have, or someone being rude. Theyre have been a total of maybe 10 people that have actually at least tried to help.


Many people TRIED to help you, but you didn’t take their advise. You were even given direct links to engine builds.
Just because YOU don’t like the answer to a question, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

I took alot of advice. If u saw my very original build (before i even got on here) youd know that. Theres a difference between advice/answering questions and saying “hey i have this youre welcome” as if i should do exactly what they did on a drag build, or i should somehow take all of that info and understand my questions more.

Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: 70charger512] #2567057
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I cant be the only one here who thinks the op has the typical defensive attitude common in this new younger generation deal............ work


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Re: New 440 daily driver build thread [Re: Thumperdart] #2567058
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
I cant be the only one here who thinks the op has the typical defensive attitude common in this new younger generation deal............ work

Lol ok ur definitely right... (que the “hah now hes defending himself from me saying hes defensive”). When people are rude for no reason i will be like this. Especially if its affecting the thread from actually being helpful to me or anyone else that might need it. This is a mopar forum so whys everyone acting like 12 year olds on xbox?

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