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Caravan cruise control issue .... #2560447
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Just recently happened in my 05 ... You set the cruise then 1 mile or 10 miles or even more later .. The cruise cuts off. Kills the cruise lite in the dash so to get it to restart you have to shut the car off and restart the vehicle OR "key" the car while rolling and restart it then. When I hit the on button the cruise could last 1 or maybe 50 miles or the cruise lite could go on and then immediately off. When the cruise is working - it works great. I've been putting some serious miles on this van - I sure miss that cruise.

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Is the switch in the steering wheel? If so my best WAG would be the clock spring.

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Hay GEEtar ... Yes on the steering wheel switch - The clock spring ? That's the wiring pack between the steering wheel and column ? Fractured wires ? What causes this ? Back and forth action of the s wheel over time ? Ez fix ??

Behave ? lol .. I know whose sandbox this is ! Btw - I saw your email some time ago ... It went poof on me !! I would have responded back. BTW - it's good to see your CONVERTER HUB is finally fixed !

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Re: Caravan cruise control issue .... [Re: dOc !] #2560735
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From what Ive read some of the clock springs had problems.Our 12 Journey was perfect one day.The nextair bag light on .Typically if clock spring air bag light is on and lots of the wheel accs stop working completley like the cruise.Typically the switch in the wheel is the culprit.The journey at times wont come on.Smack the side of the wheel and it works.Will replace it one day.Oh yeah welcome back.Rocky


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Re: Caravan cruise control issue .... [Re: therocks] #2560932
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Originally Posted By therocks
From what Ive read some of the clock springs had problems.Our 12 Journey was perfect one day.The nextair bag light on .Typically if clock spring air bag light is on and lots of the wheel accs stop working completley like the cruise.Typically the switch in the wheel is the culprit.The journey at times wont come on.Smack the side of the wheel and it works.Will replace it one day.Oh yeah welcome back.Rocky


Thx Rocky .... I called a two diff dealers to see if there was or ever was a recall. I was told no. But who knows if that is true? I was LIED TO when I had an MAJOR ISSUE with a headlight switch/wiring on a 98 diesel dually some years ago. Kind of serious when you suddenly lose headlights on I-55 in Illinois at midnite !

How big of a deal is it to r and r that clock spring ?

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No recalls on it from what I know.Its not bad to do.Just have to discharge the electric r&R the air bag and then wheel.Then the retainer and the clock spring.I did some at work but that was years ago.When mine went cruise was totally nothing.Rocky


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R ... What should that job cost in the fair market ? I still don't have a building ... Jsta small man cave / storage unit that's full of bikes presently

Re: Caravan cruise control issue .... [Re: dOc !] #2561286
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Had the dealer do the clock spring in the Journey.I could have done it but wasnt sure that was the problem.Was like 95% sure but not totally since I dont have the scanners and shop now.Cost parts labor and diag was around 500.Wife said she would rather pay than not and still not fixed.I do know my wheel switch for cruise will need replaced one day.Ill do that as its pretty easy and the switch isnt a lot.Rocky


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Re: Caravan cruise control issue .... [Re: dOc !] #2561448
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500 beans ? Holy Chit !! ... What's the grocery list of those charges ? How about jsta going to a junkyard and pulling the whole steering column out of a car there and hoping it works ??!! .. I've never done any steering wheel work that has a air bag in it

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What about a brake pedal switch or a parking brake pedal switch? I have had a vehicle where the switch was too sensitive and a bump in the road would kill the cruise. Had to adjust the switch out a bit, problem solved.

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Mine does that but sometimes doesn't come on in mu 06 T&C. I found that the main connector behind the drivers fender comes loose and turns random things on and off. I once lost my power window on the drivers side, jiggled the connector and it worked again. Terrible design is all I can say... eyes


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Re: Caravan cruise control issue .... [Re: Rhinodart] #2561910
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my wife's concorde cruise would work sporadically, and sometimes just cut out while working. had to tear out the complete dash for an evaporator replacement, found a loose connection at the brake light switch, so that was fixed. it's been two years since that job, and there hasn't been a cruise issue since. so it appears my problem was the brake light switch. you're mileage may vary .......
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Wonder if you could pull codes by turning the ign switch on & off a few times and get the flashing light.For instance 3 blinks is a 3 with a pause then 4 blinks would be 4 making the fault code 34 work


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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
What about a brake pedal switch or a parking brake pedal switch? I have had a vehicle where the switch was too sensitive and a bump in the road would kill the cruise. Had to adjust the switch out a bit, problem solved.


DT .. I did consider that but this situation kills the system temporally ... A brake lite deal would allow you to hit the resume button and be on your way.

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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
Mine does that but sometimes doesn't come on in mu 06 T&C. I found that the main connector behind the drivers fender comes loose and turns random things on and off. I once lost my power window on the drivers side, jiggled the connector and it worked again. Terrible design is all I can say... eyes


Main connector ? ... I'll have to check that tomorrow THX

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Originally Posted By moparx
my wife's concorde cruise would work sporadically, and sometimes just cut out while working. had to tear out the complete dash for an evaporator replacement, found a loose connection at the brake light switch, so that was fixed. it's been two years since that job, and there hasn't been a cruise issue since. so it appears my problem was the brake light switch. you're mileage may vary .......
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X ... The brake lite switch ON/near the brake pedal ? Did your issue make you have to restart the car to make the dash lite AND THE SYSTEM ITSELF to operate again ?

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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Wonder if you could pull codes by turning the ign switch on & off a few times and get the flashing light.For instance 3 blinks is a 3 with a pause then 4 blinks would be 4 making the fault code 34 work


Good idea itis !! ... I talked to a Bud today about taking this in and have someone with a big scanner to pull up some deep codes. Do you think the keying codes would reveal these issues ?

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my wife's concorde cruise would work sporadically, and sometimes just cut out while working. had to tear out the complete dash for an evaporator replacement, found a loose connection at the brake light switch, so that was fixed. it's been two years since that job, and there hasn't been a cruise issue since. so it appears my problem was the brake light switch. you're mileage may vary .......
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X ... The brake lite switch ON/near the brake pedal ? Did your issue make you have to restart the car to make the dash lite AND THE SYSTEM ITSELF to operate again ?


sometimes yes, and sometimes no. that was the mystery. i tried different steering wheel switches, and other things, but i forget exactly what. ["oldtimers" disease] i couldn't get any codes from the 'puter. after it started working, i got a set of factory diagnostic manuals, but it has worked flawlessly since i fixed that wire. so shruggy
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The dealer can record the electronics while driving it as I used to do it all the time. The scanner will also tell you why the cruise cut out the last time it was on. I could drive and record the electronics or I could install what we called the Co-Pilot and let the owner drive it and hit a button on it when the cruise cut out. Then he brings it back and I would download the info in the shop computer and I could see just what caused it to cut out. But have the codes checked first as it may have a code in it for the problem. Sometimes it would but not all the time. I replaced clocksprings and brakelite switches , cruise servo's and cruise switches along with even PCM's to fix cruise problems over the years. This sounds to an electrical problem and not vacuum related. Ron

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Ron. Doc dosent probally want to spend $$$ on diag.Most peopledont.They will spend a bundle guessing etc but when it comes to paying say 100 bucks for diag no way.Saw it all the time at work.Rocky


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