Re: Camshaft for street 440
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My one final question would be, with this setup and the voodoo cam, should i go with 3.55 or 3.73 gears? Again its a daily driver that I’d still like to rip off the line every once in awhile. I have a 440 Cuda hemi 4 speed, 3.55 car. DEFINATELY DO NOT go with 3.23s! You have overdrive, my first choice would be 3.73's if you have them, but 3.55s will work fine. I THINK I am running the Lunati Voodoo you are talking about (they changed part numbers several years ago and I lost track). My cam is the .493 / .513 lift. 268/272 duration(I think). Powerband comes on at 1900 and pulls hard. Anything less than 1900 will lug under throttle. I have not found the top end, but I've only looked for it up to about 6200. I would LOVE to have an overdrive, but it's not worth the expense and work to go for it...for me. Yes thats the exact one (they changed from 5 digit numbers to long ones if im not wrong, if im right about that yours is the 60303). So off the line youd say (in a race situation) to dump the clutch at 1900? Yes, mine is the 60303. It's a great mid-range power cam. No, I try to hold the motor at 2500 and apply throttle at the same time as clutch.
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Re: Camshaft for street 440
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09/16/18 10:12 PM
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My one final question would be, with this setup and the voodoo cam, should i go with 3.55 or 3.73 gears? Again its a daily driver that I’d still like to rip off the line every once in awhile. I have a 440 Cuda hemi 4 speed, 3.55 car. DEFINATELY DO NOT go with 3.23s! You have overdrive, my first choice would be 3.73's if you have them, but 3.55s will work fine. I THINK I am running the Lunati Voodoo you are talking about (they changed part numbers several years ago and I lost track). My cam is the .493 / .513 lift. 268/272 duration(I think). Powerband comes on at 1900 and pulls hard. Anything less than 1900 will lug under throttle. I have not found the top end, but I've only looked for it up to about 6200. I would LOVE to have an overdrive, but it's not worth the expense and work to go for it...for me. Yes thats the exact one (they changed from 5 digit numbers to long ones if im not wrong, if im right about that yours is the 60303). So off the line youd say (in a race situation) to dump the clutch at 1900? Yes, mine is the 60303. It's a great mid-range power cam. No, I try to hold the motor at 2500 and apply throttle at the same time as clutch. Correct me if im wrong, but it sounds like you’re saying its not too good on the low end. How is it as a normal driver, does it take much revving to move from a stoplight?
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Re: Camshaft for street 440
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09/16/18 10:49 PM
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I can take off from a dead stop as slow or as fast as I want. I can cruise along at say 25-35 mph at 1500 just fine, but I can't mash the pedal unless it's 1900 or above or it will lag. If it was an auto it wouldn't matter. It's a stump puller from 1900 and up.
Any sort of spirited driving and none of this noticeable as the engine is on its powerband.
Degreed it at 107 (that was straight up) then when I was in there for another reason I decided to advance it 2 degrees just for the hell of it. It lowered the powerband by about 100 rpm.
If i were to get 3.55 or 3.73 that would help alot with the low rpm lugging correct? I know for sure im getting one of those two, just dont know which yet. Anyone have opinions on rear end gears?
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Re: Camshaft for street 440
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09/16/18 11:08 PM
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I can take off from a dead stop as slow or as fast as I want. I can cruise along at say 25-35 mph at 1500 just fine, but I can't mash the pedal unless it's 1900 or above or it will lag. If it was an auto it wouldn't matter. It's a stump puller from 1900 and up.
Any sort of spirited driving and none of this noticeable as the engine is on its powerband.
Degreed it at 107 (that was straight up) then when I was in there for another reason I decided to advance it 2 degrees just for the hell of it. It lowered the powerband by about 100 rpm.
If i were to get 3.55 or 3.73 that would help alot with the low rpm lugging correct? I know for sure im getting one of those two, just dont know which yet. Anyone have opinions on rear end gears? Of course, higher rear gear numbers will get you into the powerband much faster. Your overdrive gives you the option to select rear gears that you otherwise wouldn't be happy with. You may even find yourself skipping shifts--I skip 2nd fairly often if it's flat and I'm just leisurely moving along.
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Re: Camshaft for street 440
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09/17/18 12:01 AM
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I can take off from a dead stop as slow or as fast as I want. I can cruise along at say 25-35 mph at 1500 just fine, but I can't mash the pedal unless it's 1900 or above or it will lag. If it was an auto it wouldn't matter. It's a stump puller from 1900 and up.
Any sort of spirited driving and none of this noticeable as the engine is on its powerband.
Degreed it at 107 (that was straight up) then when I was in there for another reason I decided to advance it 2 degrees just for the hell of it. It lowered the powerband by about 100 rpm.
If i were to get 3.55 or 3.73 that would help alot with the low rpm lugging correct? I know for sure im getting one of those two, just dont know which yet. Anyone have opinions on rear end gears? Of course, higher rear gear numbers will get you into the powerband much faster. Your overdrive gives you the option to select rear gears that you otherwise wouldn't be happy with. You may even find yourself skipping shifts--I skip 2nd fairly often if it's flat and I'm just leisurely moving along. Well the overdrive is only in 5th which i wouldnt plan on going to unless i was cruising at ~60 or above
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Re: Camshaft for street 440
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09/23/18 09:41 AM
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I second the MOPAR 528 cam . Changed out a comp XE268 in my 451 earlier this year and very happy. Starts and idles nicer , and way out rips the Comp cam in low and top charge. That Comp cam would always stink at idle and yes just as noisy as the 528 solid . 3rd. Ran it in a 440 in a '71 'cuda. Very good natured and tons of torque! You can run the 528 and tighten the lash some to quiet the motor if it bugs you. It will make the cam a touch wilder, if you go real tight, like .012 hot. Don't forget, that the lash loosens up as the heads warm up. My 440-1 heads gain .006 lash, RPMs may be a bit less.
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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