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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: ] #2551346
09/18/18 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Superfreak
Looks good. up
What size tires on the back?


32x18.5 ... I think. It's been a while since I checked.

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: racerx] #2551396
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Looks good


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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2551481
09/18/18 01:12 PM
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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2552183
09/20/18 01:19 AM
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GERST Review:
If you can work an aftermarket modern front suspension into your budget I strongly recommend it. My experience is limited to first hand GERST and second had via friends with RMS and Magnum Force. All appear to be superior to the factory system. I will eat crow if down the road experience proves me wrong, but so far my impressions are that GERST is lighter, stronger, safer, more adjustable, and increases header clearance. Not to mention the trials and tribulations I went through as a young man with local alignment shops and Chrysler threaded ball joints. I may have actually found religion after removing my battle worn factory suspension and comparing it to this nice modern system!

My roadblocks:
• Lower control arm clearance was tight. So much so that the kit did not include enough smaller spacers to install the lower control arms. The instructions mention powder coating thickness variations are the issue. To resolve I first attempted to remove the powder coating from the inside of the k-frame brackets. Eventually I had to reduce (sand) the size of a couple of the “larger” spacers included in the kit.
• Upper control arm, passenger side clearance was also tight. The instructions state to use the cone spacers on either side of the heim joint. The passenger side on my k-member was ~1/8in too tight. My options were to sand the spacer, replace the spacer with a smaller cone spacer (not included), remove the powder coating (didn’t work), or spread the bracket. After removing the powder coating and still needing more clearance; I installed a smaller cone spacer I had from another project. I may revisit this later, but the shock doesn’t rub through the entire range of motion.

Experience with GERST:
• He answers the phone day and night. Don’t hesitate to call with your questions.
• GERST comes with the Steering column bushing while other kits don’t include or charge extra.
• GERST is tubular and provides more header room than other kits.
• Track width is adjustable. My kit came with extenders for the Rack and Pinion. My friends with Magnum and RMS did not. I suspect this is to allow the track width to be adjusted without being limited by adjustment on the Rack.

For the average Joe:
• I’ve spent 30+ years using reconditioned/used factory parts; be it a factory block or early 80’s Magnum Disc brake spindles in this case. This was my first experience with entirely NEW stuff. I had to use emery cloth on the spindles to allow the outer bearings to slide in place. Polish, clean, grease, test fit, repeat…
• New brakes are awesome!!!!! You’ll just have to compare for yourself, but factory stuff is HEAVY and hard to work with compared to the stuff that came in this kit.



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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2552192
09/20/18 02:05 AM
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Very nice !!!


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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2552197
09/20/18 02:44 AM
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You've pushed the "easy" button Greg! Love tube K/rack/coil over setup!

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: J_BODY] #2552238
09/20/18 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
You've pushed the "easy" button Greg! Love tube K/rack/coil over setup!


I went 127mph on the old factory stuff (145mph once when I was a dumb kid) and consider myself lucky to still have both the car and me in one piece. I should have done this sooner!

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2552646
09/21/18 12:32 AM
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Steering column bushing!



Old and busted factory unit:



New "hotness" in its new home:




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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2553263
09/22/18 03:32 PM
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The fun is about to begin!


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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2553265
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Who's block is that on that hemi engine?

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: racerx] #2553377
09/22/18 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By racerx
Who's block is that on that hemi engine?


Indy

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2553384
09/22/18 10:03 PM
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That car is gonna be KILLER!


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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: ProSport] #2553385
09/22/18 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By ProSport
That car is gonna be KILLER!


Thanks!

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2553498
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Originally Posted By gsmopar
Originally Posted By racerx
Who's block is that on that hemi engine?


Indy
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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2553553
09/23/18 11:04 AM
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very nice piece ! however, i would recommend a support bearing on the steering shaft. that would keep some flex out of the column and rack shafts.
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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: moparx] #2553575
09/23/18 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By moparx
very nice piece ! however, i would recommend a support bearing on the steering shaft. that would keep some flex out of the column and rack shafts.
beer


Really? I haven't seen a mopar with one yet and GERST, RMS, and MF are pretty common. Do you have any pics so I can see what you're talking about?

Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2554023
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usually, a support bearing is used when having three joints in a steering shaft, but due to you having a sort of long shaft sticking out of your column, and the standard "long" rack shaft, i think a support would be insurance against any possible deflection. here is a shot of the support on my humpback project. it's a 3/4", .007 oversize, heim joint, available in a bunch of places especially made for steering shaft support. the oversize allows for a painted shaft installation. my shaft runs from the firewall, through the header tubes to the support, then to the rack. the steering is very smooth in operation. just a suggestion i would do if possible on your setup because of the extended column shaft.
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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2554308
09/25/18 12:26 AM
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Progress was a little slow tonight. I picked up extended bolts for the water pump now that I'm running an Engine Plate, but forgot to get bolts for my low mount alternator bracket (left the old ones on the 440 when I sold it).

List for this week:

  • Find that thread about the water pump hole and restrict mine before final install.
  • Install the alternator and bracket and align with the crank pulley. I bought the spacer for the pulley, but don't think I'll need it if I run an electric water pump.
  • Possible trim the upper ears on the Engine Plate to increase the clearance between the front supports. It's currently pretty tight and I could save some busted knuckles by taking little off both sides.





edit: I found the link! Look at me knocking out this list!
Water Pump Bypass Link

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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2563474
10/13/18 05:37 PM
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DMI Mopar/Chevy pulley (BMCT-060) workes with 1/4in spacer on the bracket to block and 1/8 between the alternator and bracket. The 1/4 on the block are just enough to clear the Timing Chain cover (with a slight amount of trimming.
















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Re: G's Mopar build thread (hemi, gerst, '69 Charger) [Re: gsmopar] #2563825
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Lookin Good.

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