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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
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09/18/18 04:58 PM
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Sounds like your clutch plate is stuck to your flywheel from sitting. I have had this happen in the Challenger I had years ago. It sat for a few months and the clutch plate stuck itself fast to the flywheel.
Put the car in 4th gear, push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor, and hit the starter. It should pop it loose. You may have to rock the car a few times with the starter. Keep the clutch pedal depressed while you rock the car. Also let the car settle to a stop before you hit the starter again.
If not, put the car on jack stands and remove the inspection cover. Have someone depress the clutch pedal all the way to the foor and use a thin piece of aluminum (.030 or so) and try to slide it between the clutch and flywheel.
You may also just tap on the edge of the clutch disc lightly with a hammer and screwdriver (a broad flat one) while the clutch pedal is depressed. It should pop loose. From the original posters first post. With the back tires off the ground and the clutch disengaged in 4th gear, I can see the clutch disc spin freely when someone turns the back tires. I have a good view of the throwout bearing and that seems fine. Doesn't sound like the disc is stuck to the flywheel.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: GomangoCuda]
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09/18/18 10:50 PM
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Sounds like your clutch plate is stuck to your flywheel from sitting. I have had this happen in the Challenger I had years ago. It sat for a few months and the clutch plate stuck itself fast to the flywheel.
Put the car in 4th gear, push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor, and hit the starter. It should pop it loose. You may have to rock the car a few times with the starter. Keep the clutch pedal depressed while you rock the car. Also let the car settle to a stop before you hit the starter again.
If not, put the car on jack stands and remove the inspection cover. Have someone depress the clutch pedal all the way to the foor and use a thin piece of aluminum (.030 or so) and try to slide it between the clutch and flywheel.
You may also just tap on the edge of the clutch disc lightly with a hammer and screwdriver (a broad flat one) while the clutch pedal is depressed. It should pop loose. From the original posters first post. With the back tires off the ground and the clutch disengaged in 4th gear, I can see the clutch disc spin freely when someone turns the back tires. I have a good view of the throwout bearing and that seems fine. Doesn't sound like the disc is stuck to the flywheel. Sorry, I was not reading that correctly. Yes there is a different problem.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: gss]
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09/21/18 05:18 PM
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I don't have a great explanation for this. If the disc splines were seized, it wouldn't come off the flywheel at all. There is a certain amount of flexibility in the disc center hub. I don't believe the splines are "seized" but might be too tight on the splines. With the pedal depressed, you should be able to pry the disc away from the flywheel surface. I would pull the trans and apply some spline lubricant to the splines before reinstalling.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
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09/21/18 05:26 PM
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Pressure plate fingers are pushing on disc hub?  That's worth checking too, seen it happen. Instead of fully depressing the pedal, ease up on the pedal a little to see if it frees the disc.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: gss]
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10/04/18 04:21 PM
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Why not just install a pedal stop? A block of wood taped to the pedal where it contacts the floor.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: gss]
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10/04/18 09:08 PM
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70sixpkrt
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Pressure plate fingers are pushing on disc hub? That's what it turned out to be. Off to the clutch shop tomorrow.  What clutch are you getting? I hope I don't have that problem. I had Mcleod rebuild my Pressure Plate. Haven't installed it yet.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: 70sixpkrt]
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10/05/18 03:59 PM
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I'm surprised that this didn't cause a noticeable noise, since it originally happened "while the car is running". Every time I've seen this happen the fingers contacting the disc made a loud clanking sound.
My experience with this has been with hydraulic clutch setups where the MC diameter is too large and makes the TO bearing travel too far.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
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10/06/18 06:34 AM
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Why not just install a pedal stop? A block of wood taped to the pedal where it contacts the floor. Why not just adjust it to have more free play? Then it wouldn't push the release bearing to far. I didn't see where he said how much pedal free play it has or anyone ask about it.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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10/06/18 06:29 PM
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Too much free play in the pedal will cause the over-center spring to prevent pedal return.
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Re: What's going on with my clutch?
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10/06/18 10:27 PM
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But we don't even know how much there is or how much adjustment is there. It could be a simple adjustment would fix it.
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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
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