Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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09/18/18 11:35 PM
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Gonna need a little more info on exactly how it runs different than before.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Isnt that roller a street grind and way smaller than the 590 you took out? Think the roller is on a 110, the 590 is on a 106. Different animals for sure.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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09/19/18 12:55 PM
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What is the performance difference? What are the track times by comparison, or is this by the butt meter? Two very different cams for sure.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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That cam is 106 ICL, so now you have it @ 102 ? , what ICL is the cam installed ? you said is was at 110 in one of your post,, 110 is the LSA
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Looking at those et’s, I’d be cutting the oil filter open for a look see. Leak down all the cyls, etc.
If you don’t find anything in the motor, it’s probably the converter.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Looking at it from another perspective, if the 590 cam was correct for the motor/car combo, then the XR286R really would really be “too small” to be optimum.
Looking at the OP’s sig says a best of 10.76, I assume that’s the old cam. Then reports of 11.00 with bald slicks and running the much smaller and milder street roller cam...... which to me bodes well for the XR286R.
And, that’s not even taking into account that it appears “something” in the motor/car is going away.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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The 590 cam works really well with the old cast iron heads but might not be such a good choice with something newer like Trick Flow heads. All depends on the combo. No idea on the OP's problem since I don't see enough details to even hazard a guess. Could be anything. The .590 cam ran well in my 440 with MCH ported edelbrocks.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Noticed on a history search that FlyFish ran this cam in a 408 Barracuda and had good results. I thought my converter was going as the car slowed each pass by .020 Changed the converter and rechecked the cam degree and advanced it 4* to have the 110. Last year it ran 11.00@120 with wore out slicks and this year with new slicks was 11.36@118 11.49@117 then the next day was 11.63@115 11.87@112 I'm looking at pulling the motor and put it on a engine dyno and see WTH is going on Yes, that cam worked unexpectedly well with my 410 combo years ago. Had a best of 10.5 @126mph, but usually ran in the 10.7's. Sounds like you have other issues unrelated to the cam with it losing mph on every pass...not good. Check the trans, see if you are burning it up (smell the fluid, see if it stinks).
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Okay, so what was the motivation for the cam change?
Those cams are quite a bit different than each other.
Like I said earlier....... cut the oil filter open and see what’s inside. As much as your car slowed down, if it’s engine related...... it should show up in the filter.
I assume you checked the basic stuff...... timing hasn’t moved.....still getting full throttle, etc.
I’d do a compression and leak down test as well, and if it all looks good..... time to pull the trans pan.
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Re: Replace 590 cam With Roller
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Dont forget to check battery and alt. Bad battery can kill ET I found that out a few years years back
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