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1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's #2548913
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I just look at a nicely restorded H code 68 Dart GTS 383 4-speed for a friend.
When checking for the VIN of the back of the block near the oil sending unit. I noticed that the numbers looked a owner stamping and not factory.
Then I realized that who ever did the stamping used the SO number from the fender tag and not the VIN from the dash.
After we put the car up on a lift, I found that the transmission pad on the passenger side that the six sequence numbers from the VIN stamped up side down on the pad.
In 1968 did the factory stamp the VIN on the pad of the 4 speed cars?

Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: rarefish] #2548921
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VIN should have been stamped in both spots.

Odd situation, do you have photos of both stamps?

If the block was re-stamped, that says enough about the owner for any buyer to look elsewhere.

Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2549017
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What is the build date on the fender tag?


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Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: rarefish] #2549027
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The friend has a few pics of the stamping. I will see if I can get them sent to me so I can post them here.

Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: Rhinodart] #2549031
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
What is the build date on the fender tag?


Fender tags did not record an actual 'build date' - unless it was pure coincidence.

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Here are some pics of the block stamping, trans pad.
The SPD is 418

68 GTS Block.jpg68 GTS Trans.jpg
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Here is the fender tag.

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Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2549064
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
Originally Posted By Rhinodart
What is the build date on the fender tag?


Fender tags did not record an actual 'build date' - unless it was pure coincidence.


No shiite Sherlock, just want an approximation, we all know this by now... eyes Just trying to find out if it was an early or late build.

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Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: rarefish] #2549069
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Ask the real question then?

No need to be rude or imply profanity.

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the trans looks like a factory stamping


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iagree what is stamped on the pad below the distributor scope

Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: 6bblgt] #2549142
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
iagree what is stamped on the pad below the distributor scope


That I did not get a look at, unfortunately. When on the lift I noticed that it had a 187 C-body oil pan and the casting date on the block was in Aug. 1967

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Used to be a $600 hit if missing the oil pan, now that Vans Auto has reproduced them for $200 plus pick-up it is easier to swallow if you don't mind using reproduction parts. up


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Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: rarefish] #2549568
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Taking a close look that the trans pad. I see that the assembly date is 2461 which is 4-23-68. The vehicle's SPD is 4-18-68
Does this maybe make you question if is the original transmission?

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Originally Posted By rarefish
Taking a close look that the trans pad. I see that the assembly date is 2461 which is 4-23-68. The vehicle's SPD is 4-18-68
Does this maybe make you question if is the original transmission?


That probably just proves Barry's point that the SPD is just a suggestion. work


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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
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Taking a close look that the trans pad. I see that the assembly date is 2461 which is 4-23-68. The vehicle's SPD is 4-18-68
Does this maybe make you question if is the original transmission?


That probably just proves Barry's point that the SPD is just a suggestion. work


Yes. If that is the original transmission....

Question about the 1968 BB stripe.
Is it suppose to to be one that goes straight across the trunk lid or does it come to a point in the middle of the lid? Kind of making a slight V if you understand what I talking about.

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Yes there is a vee in it. I have seen people put it in upside down before...


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Re: 1968 A-Body Engine and Transmission VIN's [Re: rarefish] #2551300
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Quote:
Then I realized that who ever did the stamping used the SO number from the fender tag and not the VIN from the dash.
After we put the car up on a lift, I found that the transmission pad on the passenger side that the six sequence numbers from the VIN stamped up side down on the pad.
In 1968 did the factory stamp the VIN on the pad of the 4 speed cars?


There is a red with white interior and tail stripe 1968 Hemi 4 spd Charger out there that was done just like that Dart. It has the original numbers matching 4 speed transmission (VIN sequence which is correct) and an owner stamped block which has the SO number stamped into it which is not correct. As a couple people have already pointed out, the VIN sequence should be on both the engine and trans.

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Thanks guys for the info and answers....







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