RacePak user???
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Pulled the trigger on a Sportsman RacePak. Wondering what everyone keeps track of? My main concern is engine RPM, and driveshaft RPM for clutch slippage.
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Re: RacePak user???
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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I monitor both G meters voltage . Engine RPM drive shaft rpm. fuel pressure crankcase vacuum O2 s on both sides. And oil pressure.. seems like there's something else I'm. Forgetting
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: RacePak user???
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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You will want everything. Sensors are addictive. And they are legit. When you have a transmission problem you will look at your pressure etc. I had 22 on the Avenger and wanted more. Now they have tire temp, track temp (I didn't have those). Here is a real life case of why you want sensors. My Neon had fuel pressure for the nitrous system. So if I would have looked at my graph I would have seen that the fuel solenoids weren't opening. There would have been a blip there (or should I say lack of one). I damaged my engine and the Racepak would have saved me.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Idiot me have had mine for over 4 years and never bought a new yoke so I can add my driveshaft sensor.
Oil pressure Water temp Trans temp O2 sensor Egt added last year G force Fuel pressure May have to add some I forgot to list.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Stick car - RPM, input shaft speed, driveshaft speed, Gs are the main ones. I'd like to see shock travel as well.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Is the G meter already part of the RacePak? I like the idea of monitoring the oil pressure, and fuel pressure. Any extra advice is greatly appreciated.
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Re: RacePak user???
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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Is the G meter already part of the RacePak? I like the idea of monitoring the oil pressure, and fuel pressure. Any extra advice is greatly appreciated. All info is good info but shortly after I bought mine my oil pressure was jumping to 130 pounds PLUS during a pass. If not caught who knows what might have happened. A simple pump change fixed it.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: RacePak user???
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Is the G meter already part of the RacePak? I like the idea of monitoring the oil pressure, and fuel pressure. Any extra advice is greatly appreciated. . There are several ways of monitoring fuel pressure high pressure at the pump.low pressure after the regulator. I would recommend low pressure after the regulator providing you have a carburetor 0 to 15 psi. Sensor. My cars fuel pressure was all over the board at speed. the race pack really help us tune all the issues out of it car actually picked up quite a bit of ET after I got it squared away
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: RacePak user???
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I like having driveshaft or wheel speed data. I would also like a G force meter, that is one of things Scott Brown used to make such big strides with Capone on drag week. He changed his shift point based on data from the g-meter and picked up .1.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Are you running the dash unit Jeff? No. Not much of a fan of that look. Trying to keep the car looking old school. I'll most likely hide the Racepack somewhere it's not too obvious, but yet I can access it easily.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Just something I will add. I bought the sportsman model and the display dash. About 1 1/2 years later my dash lights dimmed and are worthless. 2 years later I am still needing a flashlight to monitor my engine temps while in the staging lanes at night. If I remember right when I called I think he said it would be around 150-200.00 to repair it. I would never pay to hat much to repair it and I will not be putting the dash readout in my heads up car. I may try to fix it myself this winter while freshening the engine.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Prices are pretty price controlled so I bought my second one with a 10% off Summit coupon
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Re: RacePak user???
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I just bought the IQ3 Logger Drag dash. I liked that the SD card is handy to get to on the face.
It comes with oil pres. and water temp sensors.
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Re: RacePak user???
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You might consider an EFI controller to run your igntion system, it will also datalog anything and everything you could want and not be tied to special racepak $ensors.
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Re: RacePak user???
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Just sent mine in for backlight issue and I was told $60 plus shipping. Should be back this week. M For that I would consider it. I kinda like to tinker so not sure which way I will go. Kinda hate paying twice
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Re: RacePak user???
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I was just called and it is confirmed. $65 to repair. Having it sent back 2nd day for $20. They received it Wednesday of last week. Here’s another issue I ran into once. I raced in the No Box Bonaza at Norwalk a few years ago and if you closely read the rules it says no data recorders. When I told him my RacePak dash was hooked to my data recorder it was needed to see my oil pressure, water temps, and other required info. He said I could not run the race. After some more calls I was told to remove the sd card and put a wire tie around it that could be inspected at any time. Gauges for me for now on.
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I was just called and it is confirmed. $65 to repair. Having it sent back 2nd day for $20. They received it Wednesday of last week. Oh and I won’t pay them 85.00 to repair their junk. It should have been covered for the period I had it. I’ll fix it.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: RacePak user???
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That rule kept me from using a Racepak. New for 2018 data recorders are now legal in Pro et.
copied from et section COMPUTER Prohibited. See General Regulations 9:1. DATA RECORDER Data recorders are permitted in Advanced E.T., Super Pro, and Pro only. Data recorders (except for “playback”-type tachometers) are prohibited in all other E.T. classes. See General Regulations 9:2.
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Re: RacePak user???
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IMO it depends on your goals and what you are trying to accomplish. For the bracket guy Oil press, fuel press, trans temp, water temp and vacuum would be all I would be concerned with. It comes with the G meters and voltage and driveshaft RPM. IMO driveshaft ROM and G meter will tell you a TON about how the car is working. Many people overlook the G meter and wheelspeed early in the run, it is the difference between and great running car and an average running one. As for engine vitals, engine vacuum will be your best friend here as far as ring seal and overall engine health. Oil pressure is nice the rest just seem to be stuff people want to see.
As for me I have a ton, never a thing as to much info...
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Re: RacePak user???
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For those running a Dana 60, how did you mount your drive shaft sensor?
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Re: RacePak user???
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For those running a Dana 60, how did you mount your drive shaft sensor? I mounted mine to read the wheel studs, I am not sure if the racepak can give readings for this but my EFI can. Its just OK I liked it better when I had a sensor on the yoke with my 8.75 and I will be trying to do this for my Dana in the future. My moser yoke for my 8.75 had a provision for a sensor ring, the moser yoke for my Dana did not, that is what you get for assuming lol.
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Re: RacePak user???
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My moser yoke for my 8.75 had a provision for a sensor ring, the moser yoke for my Dana did not, that is what you get for assuming lol.
I have a Mark Williams yoke on my Dana 60 right now, but it doesn't have room for a ring. The Strange Billet yoke does, and I'll be going with one of those. Wonder if drilling and tapping a couple 1/4-20 holes in the case would be OK?
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Re: RacePak user???
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I can't remember if there is room to do something like this on the Dana. I really want to change, haven't been real happy with the wheel stud reading because it has a blip in it likely from one of the studs being farther away than the others. The moser 5/8 studs aren't real consistent on the back side.
This is the motion race works kit for a ford 8.8
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