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Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds #2541448
08/26/18 01:21 AM
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Just a little something I've been working on for the A and B body guys. No more chopping firewalls to get your Hellcat, Hellcrate, or Demon build to fit in your cars.












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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2541518
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Nice pieces!

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2541681
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Great contribution to the Hellcat conversion / hot rodding world. I found/bought an extra water manifold that I planned to cut off the ends and mill them down to receive 90 degree AN fittings. End result would be similar to your product, but your product provides a cleaner look and result.
Two questions:
How much are you selling these for? Are the tolerances where it enters the supercharger the same as the factory manifolds? (factory manifold is very precise)

Also, can you provide contact information and website if available? I can't quite read the phone number in the pictures.
Again, thank you for your contribution toward our conversions

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2541682
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Another quick question; Since the water manifold has a sensor port and sensor for water temperature as it exits, do you have anything in mind as to how / where to relocate the sensor? This is something I need to address whether or not I mill down the manifold ends or buy your product. Just wondering if you've thought of that part too.
Thanks again...

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2541739
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So there are several options. You could drill and tap a port for temp sensor or you can run one in line some where it is out of sight. I wanted it to be as clean as possible.

This is identical to the manifold. I'm currently trying to figure out a way to get them both to exit toward the passenger side. Unfortunately the fuel rail is giving me a hard time. So I don't think it will be possible without lots of machining and not looking so clean.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2541772
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Is these needed on an ebody? How close is it?


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: B5 Classic] #2541823
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Originally Posted By B5 Classic
Great contribution to the Hellcat conversion / hot rodding world. I found/bought an extra water manifold that I planned to cut off the ends and mill them down to receive 90 degree AN fittings. End result would be similar to your product, but your product provides a cleaner look and result.
Two questions:
How much are you selling these for? Are the tolerances where it enters the supercharger the same as the factory manifolds? (factory manifold is very precise)

Also, can you provide contact information and website if available? I can't quite read the phone number in the pictures.
Again, thank you for your contribution toward our conversions




$350 a set plus shipping

A little story, The manifold was put on a CMM. I drew it up as small and tight as possible. I made quite a few 3D prints to get everything how I wanted it. In the end I thought I had a superior product. Well to verify that, someone at FCA matched it up to their manifold model as a go, no go gauge as they couldn't give me measurements. Their reply was it's dead nuts.

You can email me at jkloth@SDGmotorsports.com


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2541824
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Is these needed on an ebody? How close is it?


I don't believe E bodies need them. Just A and B that I'm aware of so far.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: B5 Classic] #2541918
08/27/18 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By B5 Classic
Another quick question; Since the water manifold has a sensor port and sensor for water temperature as it exits, do you have anything in mind as to how / where to relocate the sensor? This is something I need to address whether or not I mill down the manifold ends or buy your product. Just wondering if you've thought of that part too.
Thanks again...


I welded a bung for the temp sensor in my intercooler tank.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2542036
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Keep in mind, the ECM wants to see the water temp after it's been through the blower to determine any timing adjustments etc that may be needed due to excessive heat. Depending on where your tank is located, the water temp could be giving the ECM the wrong information.

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2542333
08/28/18 07:45 AM
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Great piece,


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2543295
08/30/18 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Is these needed on an ebody? How close is it?


No, not on the Ebody. I have room to spare at the back of ours.

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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2543297
08/30/18 01:08 AM
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Good to know, thanks. Looks like I'd need to go to a 3spd wiper as well, the tall 2spd probably wouldn't clear.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2550450
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IM the one who bought a set and fed ex dropped at the wrong address...

small world

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2552763
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I bought a set of these. onceI got them, I asked how to install the sensor, oh just run inline somewhere he says, its 1/8 npt.. no its 3/8 Npt.
how do you make what was 2 lines IN/Out from the factory. with these you have 4 lines to run back into 2...he has no way of doing that, no instructions on hooking 4 lines back into 2.
I said well I can't use these, can i return them. ya for a 150.00 restocking fee.
thats a 48% restocking fee.... what a Nice way to treat fellow member.

BUYER BEWARE.....

these are a nice start but he rushed to market.... needs more thought put into it....

everywhere these are for sale, this will be there.....

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: 70blackfish] #2553101
09/21/18 11:22 PM
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Really, you're spreading this garbage on here too?? Come on dude get over it. You're fabricating a scenario because you couldn't figure out how to run some fittings. Plus, it's going in a Chevrolet.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2553494
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70blackfish, your campaign to smear this product seems a little extreme. It's pretty clear in the pictures of the product that the "in" and "out" orifices are all facing each other and the maker never gave any promises other than his manifolds take up much less space between the blower and the firewall than the stock water manifold.

I am grateful for the guy's attempt at a solution (the product is VERY nice) other than cutting up the firewall and unless I can come up with another way, I may buy a pair. I'm aware that it's on ME to get the hose connections sorted out and also find a way to include the temp sensor.

Since I started my effort to install a Gen3 into my A-body Cuda, there have been VERY FEW products out there that are a total solution for any of the issues. If you don't have fabrication/creativity skills, you should bring your car to someone who does. Please don't mess up a nice product and possibility for the rest of us. Just sayin'...

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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2554030
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Agreed, it's just simple plumbing fab. Anyone attempting this kind of work should be grateful this product was made.


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Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: DemonDust] #2554224
09/24/18 08:45 PM
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Not piling on, but the restocking fee sounds excessive?
Not everyone wants a science project when they buy a part.
If it's not what was expected, return (with reasonable fee) and look elsewhere.

Re: Hellcat/Demon low profile water manifolds [Re: BDW] #2554495
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Originally Posted By BDW
Not piling on, but the restocking fee sounds excessive?
Not everyone wants a science project when they buy a part.
If it's not what was expected, return (with reasonable fee) and look elsewhere.


I suspect there's more to the story than what we've heard. Likely the buyer bolted them to the blower and tried to make them work. Now wanting to return a "used" product with scratches and marring?

I just frown on the "millennial" approach of smearing crap all over the internet about it and now, here I sit, involving MYSELF in the crap frey. Geez...

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