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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: gzig5]
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08/21/18 04:39 PM
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Can't think of one, as long as widths are the same. Crane sold individual Golds at on time May still. I have a NOS 69750-1 exhaust here. May have a couple of used intakes I had for spares. Will have to look.
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: gzig5]
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08/21/18 04:59 PM
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You will have one rocker that requires different geometry corrections than the other 15. I wouldn't do it. I'd not have much trouble mixing different roller rockers if and its a big IF they were exactly the same.
You can have different rockers that all require different geometry.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: Porter67]
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08/21/18 07:16 PM
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Member Jack Moore used to advertise W2 rockers for sale quit often. You might want to get ahold of him. He’s from the Columbus Ohio area and I think he goes by Moore and Moore on Moparts
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: Porter67]
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08/22/18 07:36 PM
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Id have to adjust my thinking on the whole purchase, the one main issue with even the best old outdated related parts weather a rocker or a piston is if you hurt one you in a pickle. looking for a replacement.
Maybe try to buy the heads without the rockers or you could even buy them and sell them as singles and purchase a new set.
But with all that, id bet if you looked hard enough you probably could find a matching single rocker.
Rockers and heads are coming from separate sources. A local shop has an unused set of large chamber Econo heads at a great price. I haven't committed to taking them until I can source a set of rockers at a reasonable (to me) cost. I'm working with a really tight budget and the car needs many things so I need to keep the total cost as low as possible to make the swap feasible. I like the idea of the potential the W2 heads hold over the current options. Downsides to them too regarding intakes and header selection. If these rockers work out, I think I can get the heads setup and ready to run for somewhere between $1500-$1700 depending on valves/springs and machining costs. I wish the Trick Flows would announce pricing and get them out there to see if I want to go that way. I'll contact Mr. Evans and Mr. Moore to see if they can help me out. Thanks!
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/22/18 08:14 PM
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Id have to adjust my thinking on the whole purchase, the one main issue with even the best old outdated related parts weather a rocker or a piston is if you hurt one you in a pickle. looking for a replacement.
Maybe try to buy the heads without the rockers or you could even buy them and sell them as singles and purchase a new set.
But with all that, id bet if you looked hard enough you probably could find a matching single rocker.
Rockers and heads are coming from separate sources. A local shop has an unused set of large chamber Econo heads at a great price. I haven't committed to taking them until I can source a set of rockers at a reasonable (to me) cost. I'm working with a really tight budget and the car needs many things so I need to keep the total cost as low as possible to make the swap feasible. I like the idea of the potential the W2 heads hold over the current options. Downsides to them too regarding intakes and header selection. If these rockers work out, I think I can get the heads setup and ready to run for somewhere between $1500-$1700 depending on valves/springs and machining costs. I wish the Trick Flows would announce pricing and get them out there to see if I want to go that way. I'll contact Mr. Evans and Mr. Moore to see if they can help me out. Thanks! I have a friend with a complete set of NIB W-2 bushed rockers and brand new shafts. If you want I'll check with him and see what he wants for the stuff. PM me if you are interested.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/23/18 10:29 AM
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I will suggest sending a photo of the exact type you need with your request, the box he had was mixed lefts & rights with TA rockers mixed in the same box. A pic would be great.. I have about 10 econo rockers kicking around(spares) I also have a some of the blue MP econo rockers.. might have a few TD single shaft and a few econo multi shaft ones but on those you need to mill the rocker stands... but take a pic.. that makes life so much easier 
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: gzig5]
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08/23/18 11:45 AM
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I've got a pic, but I can't get to any hosting sites through our firewall. Don't see any option to upload from computer. I can send it via email if someone will post it, or I'll try to figure out one of the hosting sites since photobucket went nutz. Pic  Did that work? I see it but does anyone else
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/23/18 08:10 PM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/23/18 10:32 PM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed. That is good to know. I'm learning a lot. Other than the bushing are the dimensions the same between the race and Econo versions? 1.5 ratio?
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/23/18 11:17 PM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed. That is good to know. I'm learning a lot. Other than the bushing are the dimensions the same between the race and Econo versions? 1.5 ratio? Yes.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/23/18 11:48 PM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed. That is good to know. I'm learning a lot. Other than the bushing are the dimensions the same between the race and Econo versions? 1.5 ratio? Also.. are your econo heads, long valve or the standard.. they use different rockers.. MP messed up and sent one of each heads.. took me a while to figure out why I couldnt get the geometry right on the standard head with the long valve rockers on that head.. both were meant to be long valve
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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08/24/18 12:37 AM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed. That is good to know. I'm learning a lot. Other than the bushing are the dimensions the same between the race and Econo versions? 1.5 ratio? Also.. are your econo heads, long valve or the standard.. they use different rockers.. MP messed up and sent one of each heads.. took me a while to figure out why I couldnt get the geometry right on the standard head with the long valve rockers on that head.. both were meant to be long valve So the saddles were different heights between the two heads?
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Mixing Rockers in a W2 Head
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08/24/18 12:58 AM
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Those are the bushed rockers. Could have been bushed after the fact. That was the different between the race rocker and the econo rocker. The race rocker was bushed.
IMO, they all should have been bushed. That is good to know. I'm learning a lot. Other than the bushing are the dimensions the same between the race and Econo versions? 1.5 ratio? Also.. are your econo heads, long valve or the standard.. they use different rockers.. MP messed up and sent one of each heads.. took me rockers on that head.. both were meant to be long valve So the saddles were different heights between the two heads? a while to figure out why I couldnt get the geometry right on the standard head with the long valve Yep.. I dont recall the diff at the moment but they are different heights.. Mopar screwed me on that set of heads.. weighted 9 months for them and one set was all wrong.. it had a hole in it that I had to fix(was in the oil area.. easy job to fix.. braised it up)
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