Re: Milodon 21815 Pump
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08/18/18 08:59 AM
08/18/18 08:59 AM
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External pickup systems pull a lot more oil than an internal. Don't know if you absolutely need it, but would be good insurance. You will need a shaft with a hardened tip, and the Milodon pump requires a longer shaft than stock. The Melling cover should work fine. Check your clearances for your mounts, frame, steering gear.
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Re: Milodon 21815 Pump
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08/18/18 11:27 PM
08/18/18 11:27 PM
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That pump takes a bit longer shaft. I’ve ran one on my dart for several years with a normal cover. Worked real well, shifted my hemi at 7200 and the rod bearings could be reused.
68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780# 69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
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Re: Milodon 21815 Pump
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08/21/18 12:20 AM
08/21/18 12:20 AM
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A good pump from what i hear, i am putting one in to gaurantee enough oil flow for loose clearance lifters and oil thru pushrods. Most race setups won't need it, and if it pulls a lot more volume than a melling hi volume, i wonder about cavitation if used with a stock 3/8 factory pickup. It also requires the. Milodon longer oul pump drive, 23 for rollercams, 03 for cast cams.
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Re: Milodon 21815 Pump
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08/21/18 10:29 AM
08/21/18 10:29 AM
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If you can fit the external pickup system, then use it. No downsides IMO. I've been running that same pump w/ a stock Melling pump cover on my 572" hemi for many years w/ no issues. I did "port" the cover to help the flow. I used to have the Milodon cover for a remote filter for a long time, but got tired of the extra plumbing and clutter, so I put on the normal cover and I'm much happier w/ it.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Milodon 21815 Pump
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08/21/18 01:38 PM
08/21/18 01:38 PM
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i have seen this pump used with a melling hv cover. i have no experience with external pick up systems. do i even need one. engine is a 493 that will see regular strip time. max rpm would be around 7000. i have a 21815 pump available to me if i want it. can the melling hd shaft be used or do i need to buy the milodon 21503 shaft. Is this the pump you are referring to? I have the photo saved as 21814 though, and use a stock, ported cast cover on it to save room. I believe it is available with a side feed -12 fitting. It would work nicely with a stock cover as well. It's supposed to take less power to drive due to the design change to the gearator. Internal oil pick-up passage enlarged to 1/2" and block passages massaged.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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