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Need help tuning dominator for the street #2536123
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I have a 1050 holley hp 3 circuit dominator on my 526 wedge that is very rich trying to drive on the street. The engine was dynoed with the carb and was great at wide open throttle but on the street it paints the plugs black in 10 miles. It is a prosystems carb. They had me take the intermediate air bleeds out and it is still really rich. I have the timing locked at 35 degrees. It has 11:1 comp. hydraulic roller with 270 duration at .050 and Indy little ez 295 heads. Any help would be appreciated

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You need to have it work on by someone competent unless you know the circuits and have the tools needed to modify it work
That plugs would make me want to lean out the transition fuel feed circuit only by 30 to 40 percent twocents
To do that you need a good set of numbered drill bits, #1 to #70, a good pin vise to hold the bits and a good set of taps and dies down to #4 size. I use brass #6x32 set screws to modify the carbs to lean those circuits down up
If you don't have those tools or don't want to do the work yourself try contacting Dominic, Thumperdart, on here and have him do it for you scope twocents


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Have you contacted Patrick at Pro Systems about it? If not, that's where I'd start.


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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2536195
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I would (and did) start reading here....pay particular attention to jmark and tuner. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/racingfuelsystems/index.php

pro systems is good at promotion and not much else.


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Plug the intermediate circuit and see what that does. Don't go WOT like that, just fire it up and drive it a bit at part throttle. If that solves it then you know that you need to lean the intermediate way down. Back when I used a 3 circuit carb I had to take about 80% of the intermediate jetting out of the carb to get it to work.

You shouldn't use a 3 circuit on the street since at part throttle you'll have a lot of suction against the intermediate dump tube and it will pull extra fuel into the engine. You're best bet is to convert that carb over to a two circuit or else just lean the intermediate circuit down until it isn't killing the engine.

Do your metering blocks have jets for the intermediate circuit? If so you can easily change the jets. If you have an older carb without jets then you probably need to buy new metering blocks. Otherwise it will just be a pain to do all of the jetting work that you're going to need to do.

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I've converted many to 2 circuits for street use, boat and even a drag week winner on here Ray Meyers...........Easy, not too expensive and VERY street-able when I'm done......... thumbs


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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2536288
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Here is the spec sheet that came with the carb. The picture of the plug is with the intermediate air bleeds completely removed. Can I change anything to make it work or do I have to change it to a 2 circuit? Thanks for your help

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Replace the 0.040 intermediate fuel jets with 0.020 jets. That will knock 75% of the fuel out of the intermediate circuit. That should be a good starting point. Drive it a bit, see how it does and go from there. Do not go WOT until you have a good handle on what it is doing.

You might want to put a power valve in the front and jet down to 84 or so. That carb looks like it is set up for drag race only. Driving it on the street will kill your rings and eventually take the whole engine with it.

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I’d def put a primary PV in it and take out some jet.

I’d try increasing the iab as well....... and see if there are any transfer slot restrictors in the main body.


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Besides the carb, having the timing locked at 35 isn't doing the motor any favors on the street, I would think...

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Only thing my Pro Systems 950HP (I know not a dominator, but still carb) was good at was WOT, pig rich at idle, it sucked, nothing would work.

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Thumper really is your best bet.


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Originally Posted By Harry's Taxi 2
I would (and did) start reading here....pay particular attention to jmark and tuner. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/racingfuelsystems/index.php

pro systems is good at promotion and not much else.
up Make it even easier. Start with thse two at RFS for the how and why.
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I don't run a Dominator but I agree about leaning out or taking out the intermediate circuit. I will say on my 850 DP I jetted it for mph at the track and found out it was a tad rich when at part throttle cruise. So I just dropped my primary main jest a tad and then opened up my primary power valve channels to make the fuel up at full throttle. I only dropped the primary main jets a little but it made a big difference when cruising at part throttle. Cleaned it up just right and plugs look much better. Ron

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Well I gues it needs to be converted to a 2 cuircut. I sent it out to them so that I could use it on the street which is where it will be used 99% of the time. that didn't work. Do you know what kind of jets are used for the intermediate circuit? I could put the 20 jets in. Would it be ok to drive like 30 miles with the 20's? I wanted to take the car to a show this weekend and wouldn't have the carb back in time if I sent it out tomorrow. Also as far as the timing is it not good for the street to have it locked? I thought it would be better with my cam. I have 1.6 rockers Here is my cam card. Thanks Brandon

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Your cam is very close to what i have in my 511, but flat tappet. Works great. I had 2 prosystems carbs in the past. Not impressed. Dom at Thumpercarbs will give you the most time on the phone getting that thing dialed. My 1150 was near perfect right out of the box. All carbs get tested on his 470 before shipping.

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I'm just gonna say that Pro Systems did the 1200 cfm 3 circuit Dominator that's on my street/strip hemi and it's been great since 2006. No need to convert to 2 circuit if the 3 circuit is done correctly.
If I need another one done, Pro Systems will get my business.


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If you want to drive it 30 miles immediately, stick a power valve in it and the drop the primary jets down. I can't say for sure what the motor will like but I'd think you want to down to 84 or 86 jets.
You have a 6.5pv laying around??

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You might want to put a power valve in the front and jet down to 84 or so

What took everyone so long?


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Most anyone can build a carb that runs good wide open. It takes a carb builder that really knows what hes doing to make the carb do everything correctly. I have bought carbs from a bunch of different venders and Dom beats them all hands down no contest. Guy really knows his [censored] and wont BS you like the others i have dealt with. Davinci told me no one could build a 3 circuit for street like he could. Biggest piece of [censored] catb ever. Dom fixed it.

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Ok I'm going to get a 6.5 power valve and drop the front jets. Should I still drop the intermediate jets? If so are they the same as Holley main jets? I haven't taken the bowl off yet so I'm not sure what kind of jet it is. After I get through the weekend I will probly just send it out to Thumper.

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Originally Posted By polyspheric
You might want to put a power valve in the front and jet down to 84 or so

What took everyone so long?


Because it's a crutch for a blubbery mess 3 circuit and if Chip is happy with his that's good but you are one of damn near none........ drumhit


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Do you know how to tell on the metering block if it will work with a power valve or not? Some will not and others will, not all the metering blocks are the same shruggy work scope


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Not only that but make sure there's a hole in the p/v well to get a vacuum signal.......... thumbs


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The spec sheet posted shows it has a pvcr, so the PV should function....... just make sure it has a vacuum port in the cavity.

I doubt the motor would run “well” at part throttle if you leaned it out far enough to hurt anything.
Generally, big cam, big heads, big intake........ tuned so that it feels like it’s running pretty well at part throttle.........it’s usually still on the rich side.


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Mine has a PV on the primary side BTW. It is far from a blubbery mess.

Guess I'm the odd man out in this conversation...different observations about a couple different carbs I've had here.


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Ok so I have a 6.5 power valve coming and I had some jets. Do I need to change the intermediate fuel jets to drive it the 30 miles this weekend? If so should I put the intermediate air bleeds back in? They had me drill them with a .096 drill before I took them all the way out so they are bigger than the spec sheet now.
After the weekend I'm just going to have the carb done again.

Thanks for all the help
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One thing at a time.

Just install the PV with like 85 jets and drive it...... see how it goes.
Tweak from there.

The pre-HP 3 circuit 4500’s didn’t have an air bleed in the int circuit.... just a hole where one could go.


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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
One thing at a time.

Just install the PV with like 85 jets and drive it...... see how it goes.
Tweak from there.
iagree scope
Do that mod and then go drive it far enough at light part throttle cruising (1500 to 2500 RPM), not 30 miles, to see how the plugs look an if they clean up or not scope
I would put one new plug in after doing the mods to the carb. before driving it so you can see what it does also scope twocents
Let us know your results please thumbs

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Mine has a PV on the primary side BTW. It is far from a blubbery mess.

Guess I'm the odd man out in this conversation...different observations about a couple different carbs I've had here.


Glad that works for you and apparently you got a good tune going............ thumbs Do you have a wide band to verify afr's at different engine speeds.......... beer Just asking to get info and understand how you verify that your 3-circuit is great on the street and has no blubbery or over rich issues cos if so, that's a good thing for sure just haven't seen it first hand.......... thumbs

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Looks like you're not alone Chip wink

The Dominator on my 572 Hemi is a Pro Systems 3 circuit as well. On the dyno with open headers, the AFRs from 4K and WOT up were perfect and the engine performed really well. I toyed with the idea of maybe going to a 2 circuit conversion but decided to have a go at dialling it in nicely in the car.

I have dual Widebands - one in each collector, this helped a lot as a tuning guide.

Once in the car the IABs and Int circuit needed a little tweaking along with equal reductions in jetting on both the Pri and Sec side - with a full exhaust now on the car, it really made a difference to the fuelling. The IFRs, HSABs and PVCR jet I left untouched so far.

It has a 5.5 PV in front as well, I now have it idling hot at around low 15s and cruises hi 14s/low 15s as well. There is little to no real load at idle or part throttle and despite what others have told me, I'm letting the car tell me what it likes using AFRs as a guide. The car loves the current setup, no surging, great transition and super nice plugs and clean oil. Hell, if I keep the right foot out of it it ain't half bad on the benzene consumption lol.

I'm now creeping up on the WOT and its nearly there but still a tad on the rich side need to get to the track to dial it in further. I'm guessing the PVCR jet will need to be a little smaller so I'll see what happens.

In my case I had to be super patient and persistent, make one change at a time, document each change, drive it and see what the car/engine was telling me. A bit of work - for sure, Worth it ? ABSOLUTELY !

I've found most guys don't have the patience (or time) to take the time to understand each circuit and its effects and then to dial it in properly with the right tools/parts.

Each engine is different ...gotta give it what it likes and use AFRs as a guide.


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It's a debate.
Who agrees with me on almost every product? Holley.
Who does not? People in a "State of confusion".

Biggest reason to remove PV: you have no idea what it does.


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Originally Posted By LAD 524
Looks like you're not alone Chip wink

The Dominator on my 572 Hemi is a Pro Systems 3 circuit as well. On the dyno with open headers, the AFRs from 4K and WOT up were perfect and the engine performed really well. I toyed with the idea of maybe going to a 2 circuit conversion but decided to have a go at dialling it in nicely in the car.

I have dual Widebands - one in each collector, this helped a lot as a tuning guide.

Once in the car the IABs and Int circuit needed a little tweaking along with equal reductions in jetting on both the Pri and Sec side - with a full exhaust now on the car, it really made a difference to the fuelling. The IFRs, HSABs and PVCR jet I left untouched so far.

It has a 5.5 PV in front as well, I now have it idling hot at around low 15s and cruises hi 14s/low 15s as well. There is little to no real load at idle or part throttle and despite what others have told me, I'm letting the car tell me what it likes using AFRs as a guide. The car loves the current setup, no surging, great transition and super nice plugs and clean oil. Hell, if I keep the right foot out of it it ain't half bad on the benzene consumption lol.

I'm now creeping up on the WOT and its nearly there but still a tad on the rich side need to get to the track to dial it in further. I'm guessing the PVCR jet will need to be a little smaller so I'll see what happens.

In my case I had to be super patient and persistent, make one change at a time, document each change, drive it and see what the car/engine was telling me. A bit of work - for sure, Worth it ? ABSOLUTELY !

I've found most guys don't have the patience (or time) to take the time to understand each circuit and its effects and then to dial it in properly with the right tools/parts.

Each engine is different ...gotta give it what it likes and use AFRs as a guide.



You're right about the patience part for sure and again, if YOU are happy that's all that matters but every single 2 circuit conversion is still that, a 2 and no one as far as I know has ever changed back to a 3. Forest on here went 8-flat at almost 171 mph with a 2 I converted for him and it's cleaner n meaner than ever and that's just ONE example......I also know the HEMI's have a different fuel demand than a wedge and like more fuel from my testing........... thumbs

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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2537942
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I just sent the carb to thumper. Decided not to mess with it and just have it set up right.

Thanks for the help

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Thankxxx and I will hook ya up the best I can then you will have back to back real world info so we can ALL learn along the way....... thumbs


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I was hanging out at the local speed shop yesterday while they were dynoing a fresh 540 shebby boat engine. The owner had them install Holley Dominator size multi port injection and they were trying to tune it.

Well, first they were just trying to get it to run well enough, long enough to start tuning. They were on their second day trying to get it lined out. They swapped a carb on to break it in and get some initial details.

They had tried about everything they knew to try, had called Holley several times and had switched back to the carb to make sure that the EFI was the problem.

I'ld hate to pay that bill. And did I mention that the boat had twin engines? So, they have this to do again. Anyone care to guess what the customer will have in his EFI when it's all said and done? $6,000? $8,000? Could it go $10,000?


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Originally Posted By DaveRS23
I was hanging out at the local speed shop yesterday while they were dynoing a fresh 540 shebby boat engine. The owner had them install Holley Dominator size multi port injection and they were trying to tune it.

Well, first they were just trying to get it to run well enough, long enough to start tuning. They were on their second day trying to get it lined out. They swapped a carb on to break it in and get some initial details.

They had tried about everything they knew to try, had called Holley several times and had switched back to the carb to make sure that the EFI was the problem.

I'ld hate to pay that bill. And did I mention that the boat had twin engines? So, they have this to do again. Anyone care to guess what the customer will have in his EFI when it's all said and done? $6,000? $8,000? Could it go $10,000?


Yep, I get those calls a lot and they see the light after all including the several I converted from corn to gas.........Kevin at CSU has a saying and in MOST cases I agree but I can't post it here but he's not a fan either..........EFI has it's place just never on my plate nor would I ever suggest it EVER............. down fan


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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: DaveRS23] #2538092
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Originally Posted By DaveRS23
I was hanging out at the local speed shop yesterday while they were dynoing a fresh 540 shebby boat engine. The owner had them install Holley Dominator size multi port injection and they were trying to tune it.

Well, first they were just trying to get it to run well enough, long enough to start tuning. They were on their second day trying to get it lined out. They swapped a carb on to break it in and get some initial details.

They had tried about everything they knew to try, had called Holley several times and had switched back to the carb to make sure that the EFI was the problem.


They should have called me. I could have remote connected and tuned The Holley EFI over the Internet. I'm doing two remote sessions like this every day. Unless there's a mechanical issue this works every time. efiexpert.com

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Why doesn't Holley tech recommend you in certain cases, Rich? Why does the customer have to figure out who to call when he's struggling with their product?

I will say that when they called the engine's owner, he suggested that they call Holley tech a couple of times to see if they could get a more competent tech. Apparently, this isn't his first experience with them.


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Mine has a PV on the primary side BTW. It is far from a blubbery mess.

Guess I'm the odd man out in this conversation...different observations about a couple different carbs I've had here.


Glad that works for you and apparently you got a good tune going............ thumbs Do you have a wide band to verify afr's at different engine speeds.......... beer Just asking to get info and understand how you verify that your 3-circuit is great on the street and has no blubbery or over rich issues cos if so, that's a good thing for sure just haven't seen it first hand.......... thumbs

No wideband needed. After 12 years of street and strip use and never fouling plugs and running great, I'm perfectly happy w/ it. Sounds crisp, clean off the footbrake or the transbrake. Part throttle driving around town, no stumbles, or running rough. Which is a lot more than I can say for some other carbs I've had to mess with.


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thumbs And the mighty HEMI likes fuel so maybe it's happy as you said and needs it........... beer


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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2546479
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Got the carb back from Dominic and back on the car. What a difference. The car runs great. Way cleaner and smoother. Going to take it out and drive it more only got to put a few miles on it. When it stops raining here I will log some more miles and report back . Very happy so far. Night and day difference very responsive. Thanks Dominic.

Thanks Brandon

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Originally Posted By Canam800
Got the carb back from Dominic and back on the car. What a difference. The car runs great. Way cleaner and smoother. Going to take it out and drive it more only got to put a few miles on it. When it stops raining here I will log some more miles and report back . Very happy so far. Night and day difference very responsive. Thanks Dominic.

Thanks Brandon


Was wondering how it worked out as I haven't heard from you guys and I start twitching in anticipation............Very happy that you're happy......... thumbs


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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2546695
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To many people think that carbs are no good, they do not realized that all carbs. are tuneable wrench Some are harder to tune than others shock whistling
I've told many racers and hot rodders to tune one circuit at a time , starting with the idle circuit and then move up to the transition circuit and so on up
With todays parts like wide ban O2 system you can dial most carbs in to perfection boogie wrench grin
The bad part is some guys say more about this subject than they understand shock work shruggy
My message on this is not all motors like the same tune up or parts so experiment and test, test and test some more until you get it exactly the way YOU like it up

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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Thumperdart] #2546842
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By Canam800
Got the carb back from Dominic and back on the car. What a difference. The car runs great. Way cleaner and smoother. Going to take it out and drive it more only got to put a few miles on it. When it stops raining here I will log some more miles and report back . Very happy so far. Night and day difference very responsive. Thanks Dominic.

Thanks Brandon


Was wondering how it worked out as I haven't heard from you guys and I start twitching in anticipation............Very happy that you're happy......... thumbs


Thumper, could you give us the "recipe" you used for this application?


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They vary but if you send yours you can see for yourself my "recipe"........ biggrin beer

I look at the whole picture of the said vehicle and it's intended application and go from there but lets just say I tune like the baddest did in the 60's and 70's not like the monkey crap you see today........Less emulsion(2)normally and adjustable t-slot jets to keep em clean n mean till you wood the happy peddle.......... drinking

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dogdays, I understand that, but per thumpers own acknowledgment he was given quite a bit of free guidance in the past. I gotta eat too!


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Nothing is free I'm here to tell ya..........Hundreds and hundreds of dollars on gas, plugs, oil, tires etc to learn this stuff and am still learning new and unexpected stuff. My numbers below if you want to call me anytime.......... thumbs And let's just say that the "free" info isn't always accurate.............. beer

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Re: Need help tuning dominator for the street [Re: Canam800] #2775707
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Hello... i can say you need to try is setting the Closed Loop Compensation Limits down.
In my case I pulled the distributor to find that the gear is pretty worn on the bottom leading edges of the teeth. It looks like I need to figure out a way to get my distributor depth just a little deeper. This would explain my jumpy timing.

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