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Alternator and starter restoration #252684
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I wanted to let anyone who is interested in having their alternator or starter rebuilt to get in contact with Jim Ridge at Dixie Restoration. He has done a couple of each for me and his work is outstanding. His costumer service is outstanding as well. He has more than gone out of his way to help me with my restoration. Anyone who has used Jim can attest to the quality of his work. Dane Young

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 96a12b] #252685
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I wanted to let anyone who is interested in having their alternator or starter rebuilt to get in contact with Jim Ridge at Dixie Restoration. He has done a couple of each for me and his work is outstanding. His costumer service is outstanding as well. He has more than gone out of his way to help me with my restoration. Anyone who has used Jim can attest to the quality of his work. Dane Young




Dare I ask.. How much they charge

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 340dart4spd ] #252686
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We're up front about our service costs: $225 for starter restoration and $250 for an alternator resto. This pkg. price assumes the core is complete and original. We always call our customers after receiving their core to discuss condition and talk about any potential "up-charges." We also establish a time frame for job completion, usually two to three weeks with a good core and no "surprises." We do not accept payment until AFTER the alternator or starter has be received by the sender and he/she is 100% satisfied with the work. We proudly stand behind our workmanship and our attention to detail. Call (803)924-6247 for information.

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Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 96a12b] #252687
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I completely agree. I just received back one of each and to say they look outstanding would be an understatement

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: gtx6970] #252688
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Here Here !!!

Thanks again Jim for all your help!!

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: hemi_rtdave] #252689
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Thanks so much guys! Dave M. don't be a stranger, holler at me sometime...

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 70RT] #252690
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Before and after photo'swould be great.
Any photo's of the work would be nice.

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: etek] #252691
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Here is a link to a previous post on the same subject. Keep in mind RPM has even further refined their process since then. After speaking with Jim for only a short time you will quickly realize how dedicated and committed he is to the work and customer satisfaction.

Dave M. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post3862130

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: gtx6970] #252692
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Don't anyone dare send any work to Jim! ARE YOU CRAZY?!! Well, at least until I get my alt & starter back. There's no question about his integrity, service & restoration work, it's outstanding. Enough of the butt grabbing, now get busy Jim.

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: HEMICUDA] #252693
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They did the work on my original alternator in Sept 07. It sat for a year and its now working like a champ...they get my approval!

Jim
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Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 68jim] #252694
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Jim, has got to be one of the nicest guys I have met.
I am not surprised with the results and the comments above.
Nice job Jim.
Jules

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #252695
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Jim,

Where on earth are you getting date coded diodes?

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: HEMICUDA] #252696
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Why Mike, from the diode store of course! LOL, we had stamps made up for most 67-71 code dates. Dave Walden - ECS - also stamped a few for me and we have a few NOS. Mike, I'll start working on your alt and starter this week. I'll post some pictures of our latest work as soon as I get a chance.

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 70RT] #252697
03/22/09 01:45 PM
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Not bashing (at all) but just thinking...why are repo parts that have falsified date codes acceptable but altering engine/tranny information or even VIN information is strickly forbidden?

I mean is there a line somewhere that shouldn't crossed?

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #252698
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why are repo parts that have falsified date codes acceptable but altering engine/tranny information or even VIN information is strickly forbidden?




Mass produced “cookie cutter” parts are not governed or mandated by the DMV and the DOT. Vehicles are assigned serial (VIN) numbers that federally register the power train and sub frame to "THAT" particular vehicle. The alternator, tires, battery, etc…. are very similar to components that are used to construct a building. You do not need to amend or alter the title/deed when replacing door trim, hot water heaters, or roof shingles. Just like the alternator however, these replacement components need to comply with guidelines established by the building codes and industry standards. Printed “date codes” do not alter the function or performance of a part. They simply provide a way to know when, or from what batch, a component was manufactured.
Synergy….the whole is greater than the parts!

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: ECS] #252699
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can anyone explaine the date coding on the alternators?

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1. Front and rear shells (aluminum housing) have a cast in date code "clock" divided into twelve pie shaped segments. These are the months of the calendar year. Each segment that has dots inside represents a cancelled month. For ex. three cancelled segments would mean the part was cast in March. In the middle of the monthly segments is a circle with two digits representing the year of manufacture. Depending on the casting plant the the date code clocks are well defined or barely legible.
2. The critical date for the restorer is the assembly date which is stamped, not cast, into the rear shell. It can be found by looking for the flat cast area located near the positive battery connection. There will be a part number, three digit number (assembly plant info?), then the assembly date. This consists of a single or double digit week of the year followed by the last two digits of that year. An example would be 39-69 or the 39th week of 1969. I know it needs pictures but they'll have to wait.

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We're up front about our service costs: $225 for starter restoration and $250 for an alternator resto. This pkg. price assumes the core is complete and original. We always call our customers after receiving their core to discuss condition and talk about any potential "up-charges." We also establish a time frame for job completion, usually two to three weeks with a good core and no "surprises." We do not accept payment until AFTER the alternator or starter has be received by the sender and he/she is 100% satisfied with the work. We proudly stand behind our workmanship and our attention to detail. Call (803)924-6247 for information.




Thats the way a buisness should be run.

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This may help!

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Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: hemi_rtdave] #252703
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Thanks much Dave! With all the discount points you're racking up, I may have to pay you for restoring your next one
Nitrousn - I suffered through disappointments and rip-off artists all during the 10-year restoration odyssey of my Challenger R/T. So I’m trying to make certain I don’t do that to anyone else. Dixie Restorations may not be able to satisfy everybody, but it won't cost them a dime if we can't.

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We do not accept payment until AFTER the alternator or starter has be received by the sender and he/she is 100% satisfied with the work.




Jim,
Be careful doing business like this! You might find that MANY of your unknown patrons “conveniently” have a problem with “something” concerning your work and you end up with an epidemic of working for free!

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This Jim guy seems like one heck of a nice guy.

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"Jim,
Be careful doing business like this! You might find that MANY of your unknown patrons “conveniently” have a problem with “something” concerning your work and you end up with an epidemic of working for free! "

I agree. There is nothing wrong with receiving payment with the part.
Your reputation will work for you and you are the type of guy that will always work something out if a problem arises.
You can always send a refund.
Jules

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Thanks much Dave! With all the discount points you're racking up, I may have to pay you for restoring your next one
Nitrousn - I suffered through disappointments and rip-off artists all during the 10-year restoration odyssey of my Challenger R/T. So I’m trying to make certain I don’t do that to anyone else. Dixie Restorations may not be able to satisfy everybody, but it won't cost them a dime if we can't.




My last order from Dixie Parts was a good deal and transaction. Your philosophy of being up front will go a long way to a strong buisness with a good name.. I wish all vendors worked that way as I to have had a few not so good experiences.

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I agree. There is nothing wrong with receiving payment with the part.
Your reputation will work for you....




Hey Jules,
I had a few folks question (on the phone this afternoon) my comment about compensation and business practices. I wasn’t sure why!? Are there ANY businesses out there that provide a service or product without some form of compensation? When was the last time anyone walked into MacDonald’s, ordered their meal and walked out without paying? When you go to Wal-Mart or any other retail establishment, can you leave with the merchandise and tell them you will come back later to settle up? I went to pickup a “carry out” food order from an Outback restaurant. I didn’t get to leave with the food without paying for it! I also picked up some auto paint from my paint jobber. Same drill!! I paid before I was able to walk away with the product. Try calling Year One, National Parts Depot or any other restoration house and see if you can get your parts shipped without paying for the parts. What businesses are people referring to where you can walk out with a product and have the leisure of coming back later to tell whether or not you intend to pay?

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Does not exist Dave.
It is the correct way of doing things simply because the business is in business to provide the service or part
so paying ahead of time will not make the business decide to opt out of providing the part.The chances are greater
that something may go wrong from the clients side simply because he is an individual and does not have a business
reputation at stake. It will still boil down to doing your homework when dealing with any business. If the feedback is good then
there is no danger in paying up front. IMO Jim is being too giving. Like you said Dave, he is risking at some point to
end up working for free.
Jules

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #252710
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Hey guys, I'll wade into the swamp with you. Jules is absolutely correct, sooner or later, we'll get stuck. Is it worth it to Dixie to take a chance? Yea, I think it is. Our entire business is based on trust. In the beginning I had a few folks who took a substantial risk to box up a valuable core or cores and trust that we were going to do what we said we would. We promised their alternator and starter would be properly restored and guaranteed it would work as originally intended. So far, only one client has refused his restored piece and Dixie paid his core fee from a competitor. After the fact, we found out it was timing issue with the customer not a quality issue with the restoration. Dave, ECS sells a defined product, be it d/cd glass or tire pressure decals. Folks look in the catalog, and order what they see. Apples and oranges, I guess. Jules, your business has served as a model for Dixie b/c of the outstanding value and quality of service you provide. I certainly don't fault anyone for asking for the money up front. Makes perfect sense and is reasonable. For the immediate future we'll stick with collecting after the fact and hopefully continue to grow the trust that y'all have already earned!

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Jim,
and that is why there is more than one way to getting things done.
This will work for you and not for me. As long as both you and your client
are satisfied then all is well. The end result is what counts.
You're on the right track with a great product and service.
Thanks for the kind words.
I wish you much success.
Jules

Re: Alternator and starter restoration [Re: 70RT] #252712
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Folks look in the catalog, and order what they see. Apples and oranges, I guess.




Hello Jim,
I certainly am not trying to advise or tell anyone how to run their business. I have known you for a long time and was making a comment to a respected business person and friend. As far as apples and oranges, I don’t think so. You also offer a unique and premier product and service. So does ECS! I have found that over the years, if you leave a loophole or opportunity for a “breach”, it will absolutely be exploited. I have had some of the most “honest” folks take the low road when given the opportunity. You restore 10 units and it only takes one or two “opportunist” to eat up the working profit that was made from the other ethical patrons. You set yourself up for, “The metal doesn’t look just like the originals I have seen“, or “your orange inspection paint isn’t quite the correct color“, or “I didn’t like the way you shipped it“….. Just be ready for any excuse why someone will not pay or try and dwindle down your advertised cost. You have definitely left the door open for “self” minded customers! (Did I state that politically correct enough?) It can kill a small business before it ever has the chance to get started.

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Dave you know what a tremendous fan I am of what you and Steve have accomplished in the restoration arena. And, ECS is a company that has raised the bar for all of us. Your advice is always appreciated and respected. Don't worry about being PC - that's what got this great Nation of ours in the sinkhole it's in today!

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