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73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? #2524648
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Has anyone heard that some of the suspension parts on 73' -74' Coronets and Chargers ie: Sway bar bushings, lower control arm bushings and ball joints are hard to replace/service during a front end rebuild?
I'm about to rebuild my entire front end and just want to be aware of all the gremlins that may surface during such a job.

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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2524710
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Only thing I know of is the 73 should of had threaded lower ball joints and 74 started using press in lower ball joints. So make sure you have the correct lower ball joints. Also heard the threads can come out when removing the srcew in ball joints on the upper and lower. Mine came out fine but I have heard of issues. Nothing else that I can recall when I did my 73 Charger. BTW, I have a set of nos lower control arm shafts with bushings.

Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2524882
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I have heard the same about the threads coming out when replacing ball joints. My 74 still got factory pieces and I'm affraid when times come.

In Vzla is not uncommon to find weld points ( 2 or 3 ) to keep ball joint and UCA safely in place. Not just on 73 and lates B bodies, but on any Mopar. Need to note, Venezuelan cars are tipically abused.

On my LCA ( press kind ) i had to make a weld seam on the new ball joint to make it larger diameter and make it fit tight again into the LCA hole. They were moog problem solver ball joints ( which I think are around .002 larger ) and still fit loose.

NOS LCA are anyway ready to get in to my car soon, with ball joins and bushing already installed from factory.

About the rest parts of suspension... nothing worst or better than any other Mopar.


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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2525057
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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: larrymopar360] #2525129
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Thank you.
It has a solid under chassis and the body is clean with just a few pen dents and fewer surface rust to scuff off and repaint.
A 72' 360 I have laying around will find its way into the bay for some motivation next summer in full stock form.
Just have to find a good competent upholsterer to rebuild the springs and foam on the front split bucket bench.

Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2525216
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This would be a good time to do the k-frame bushings as well. You can use poly or go solid. There are also bushings on the t-bar cross member.

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Yes, ham in the process of finding K-member bushings. Preferably original rubber types. Anyone know where to find 'em?
Does Just suspension or places like that make good ones to last?

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Yes, ham in the process of finding K-member bushings. Preferably original rubber types. Anyone know where to find 'em?
Does Just suspension or places like that make good ones to last?


GO SOLID!!! It will ride no harsher than a '72-back B-body but track so, SO much better with the K mounted solid.

I mounted the K solid in my wagon. If you actually drive the car and not just on and off a trailer, you'll notice the difference especially on pot holed roads or washboard kind of roads.

I used the (now) discontinued DC kit, but I believe Firm Feel now offers a kit.

Nice '73 Coronet!


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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2525467
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NOS frame mounts will be hard to find and if you do find them they are big $$. There are eight rubber pieces total upper and lower. Also there are crossmember rubber mounts also. I can give you the part numbers for them if you want. You can get poly for them also. Personally I have the solid mounts in another car and they are too harsh IMO. It does handle better but I don`t like the trade off. I will be taking them out one day when I get some time.

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Ok, you would need for the frame 4-3642851 and 4-3642852 isolator mounts. Arizona parts has 4 of the 3642851 for $55 each. I didn`t see the other number available from him.

Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: mopars4ever] #2525508
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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
NOS frame mounts will be hard to find and if you do find them they are big $$. There are eight rubber pieces total upper and lower. Also there are crossmember rubber mounts also. I can give you the part numbers for them if you want. You can get poly for them also. Personally I have the solid mounts in another car and they are too harsh IMO. It does handle better but I don`t like the trade off. I will be taking them out one day when I get some time.


Not a slam, but, how is the ride too harsh compared to a '72 -back? Having owned a '72 wagon and a '78 at the same time yrs ago, not once did I find the '72 offensive compared to the '78 (which was stock).

I guess it was for people like you that Chrysler went to the iso-K. biggrin

Me, I can live with the 'harshness' of a '72-back B-body.

Hmmm.....maybe you can swap out your solids and sell them to the OP to try out? work shruggy

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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: mopars4ever] #2525511
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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Ok, you would need for the frame 4-3642851 and 4-3642852 isolator mounts. Arizona parts has 4 of the 3642851 for $55 each. I didn`t see the other number available from him.



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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2525526
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Your entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. What you like and what I like and being different is still allowed in this country, correct? Nothing bent here.

BTW, He did ask this? (Preferably original rubber types. Anyone know where to find 'em?)

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Thank you guys. Thank you Mopars4ever.
I was thinking that solid ones would ride harsh and I really don't want that for a daily driver. Besides, my 65' rides like a WWII jeep already.
I'll look into the Arizona parts.

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It looks like after reading what Satellite sent that it all comes down to what people really like for themselves.
I don't mind the harshness of my 65' because its a purpose built animal, but I guess if I could not find originals (strange being that these particular cars are not really that old) I would settle for the aluminum types.
I will admit that at this point, this car does wander a little and it makes me nervous on these crowded highways of New York. Perhaps it may be because it needs a complete overhaul of the front and rear suspensions (which I do with any car after a purchase) or it can just be a design imperfection of that era car.

I've since ordered the rear leaf springs, Isolators, shackles and bushings and U-bolts. The only items I am on the fence about are the shocks. I hear that the Bilsteins are the ticket but that the KYB's can be a bit hard.
Thanks guys since I am new to this breed and year. I've always loved the 71' 73' Chargers and Satellites.

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Is your Coronet a big block or small block car?

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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2525733
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why miss the comfort with the rubber mounts ? is Coronet to drive it pleasuring, not a race car!!

rubber píeces were being on reproducing process what told were to be ready by january this year BUT never head back from the guy working on them ( 69bfan at dodgecharger dot com board ). I was waiting for them.

( csroll down this thread http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,125484.25.html

Poly and solid aluminium are available for a while... poly from Prothane and Energy suspension... rockauto, summit, ebay all around in red and black.

solid several others. Firm feel offers them


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Re: 73' to 74' Coronet and Charger front ends??? [Re: NachoRT74] #2525880
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Thank you for the info.

And on that same note, are 73' power bulge Charger hoods interchangeable with 73' Coronet flat hoods? Just curious.

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket

I've since ordered the rear leaf springs, Isolators, shackles and bushings and U-bolts. The only items I am on the fence about are the shocks. I hear that the Bilsteins are the ticket but that the KYB's can be a bit hard.
Thanks guys since I am new to this breed and year. I've always loved the 71' 73' Chargers and Satellites.


I was going to get into rear suspension but you were only asking about front suspension. The rear suffers from the "iso-k" changes as much as the front does. There is a large bushing that mounts in between the leaf and the shock plate. If you had not ordered the parts already, I would have told you to swap out to the 71-72 style. They make that bushing in poly to firm things up, otherwise the car can almost "crab walk" because the axle is not located properly.

Original rubber k-frame biscuits are not available. As Nacho said someone was working on producing them in small batches but we haven't heard anything since. You can go solid or poly - there are two brands of poly bushings out there. I prefer the ones with the integral steel sleeve.

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforu...rothane.142366/

On shocks, KYBs are crap. They ride like a hay cart and are way too harsh.

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