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#2525334 - 07/22/18 12:09 PM Ritter racing block design flaw
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As many of you may know we have been struggling with an internal water leak on this block since it was new.. causing premature hone damage.. that being said when it runs it runs strong. This is a naturally aspirated engine.. that lives in an extremely harsh environment and it's put to the test every pass.. we tore the engine down to clean install some epoxy in the block And hone.. upon disassembly we noticed the block was cracked at the three Center cam bearings.. the block is extremely thin there because of its design it is approximately approximately 7/16 of an inch wide from the bearing register to the oil drain Passage..


Edited by WHITEDART (07/22/18 12:16 PM)
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#2525335 - 07/22/18 12:14 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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#2525337 - 07/22/18 12:16 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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#2525339 - 07/22/18 12:20 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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I am no engineer however it appears. The way the cam tunnel is closed off from the top and open on the bottom there is a significant amount of movement that's taking place causing a crack in these thin areas.. the cracks were not visible to the eye until this go around.. however the motor would not hold cam bearings very well since day one.. which tells me they have always been there and probably open up with heat causing the bearings to lose their press.. this application is a 55 mm cam
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#2525342 - 07/22/18 12:23 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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WD...ever thought bout trying one of the newer casting blocks?

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#2525344 - 07/22/18 12:27 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: racerx]
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The motor would not hold cam bearings until I made these retainers.. this image will kind of give you an idea of what the design of the cam and Valley area look like


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#2525346 - 07/22/18 12:29 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: racerx]
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Originally Posted By racerx
WD...ever thought bout trying one of the newer casting blocks?
only if someone gave me one for free and all the machine work was done to my specs and it wouldn't cost me a dime .. FYI this is a second generation Ritter block.. this is neither a casting or Machining flaw it is structural


Edited by WHITEDART (07/22/18 12:30 PM)
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#2525352 - 07/22/18 12:36 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Originally Posted By racerx
WD...ever thought bout trying one of the newer casting blocks?
only if someone gave me one for free and all the machine work was done to my specs and it wouldn't cost me a dime .. FYI this is a second generation Ritter block.. this is neither a casting or Machining flaw it is structural

curios to know , how many pass's on this block?

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#2525357 - 07/22/18 12:43 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: racerx]
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150ish mostly 1/8 Mile.
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#2525366 - 07/22/18 12:56 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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gotcha…. up I remember there were a lot of issues with that block when it was first cast.





so what are the plans now?


Edited by racerx (07/22/18 12:57 PM)

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#2525371 - 07/22/18 01:08 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: racerx]
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Very sorry to hear this
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#2525383 - 07/22/18 01:51 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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VERY disappointing, just more junk made for mopars. very sorry for you WD


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#2525395 - 07/22/18 02:14 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: csk]
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Originally Posted By csk
VERY disappointing, just more junk made for mopars. very sorry for you WD



Junk? Really? I've seen almost every brand of block crack there.
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#2525396 - 07/22/18 02:19 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: csk]
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Have you show this to Ritter?
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#2525400 - 07/22/18 02:26 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: Skeptic]
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
Have you show this to Ritter?


That would be an exercise in futility
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#2525418 - 07/22/18 02:47 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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I hate reading this kinda stuff!!Have they come out with a new and improved block? Who else makes an aftermarket block for the W8??
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#2525426 - 07/22/18 03:04 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: Al_Alguire]
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Originally Posted By Skeptic
Have you show this to Ritter?


That would be an exercise in futility
If you are expecting a refund or exchange, sure. They can't fix-or be expected to fix, problems they don't know about. Sending an e-mail with a few pictures isn't really much "exercise".

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#2525438 - 07/22/18 03:33 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: hemi-itis]
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
I hate reading this kinda stuff!!Have they come out with a new and improved block? Who else makes an aftermarket block for the W8??


You can get an aluminum A8 block in a week if you are willing to part with $7000.00
Then buy the needed timing set for another 1000.... but you can get it.
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#2525450 - 07/22/18 03:54 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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Just out of curiosity, how much is it bored for the 55mm bearings?
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#2525462 - 07/22/18 04:14 PM Re: Ritter racing block design flaw [Re: WHITEDART]
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Are the lifter bushings tall due to shallow lifter boss or for el notcho lifters?
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