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NP435 to over drive trans options #2522703
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Just looking for ideas here. I'd like to keep the stick in my 74 Power Wagon with what will be a Magnum 5.2 as the 4.10 gears and no O/D really make for a miserable cruise down the highway. I have a 46RH behind the Magnum engine that will be going in the truck but I'd rather avoid that if possible. Are there any manual O/D transmissions that will bolt in without a lot of fabrication? This truck still has mechanical clutch linkage and that would be easy to keep. I don't have a problem moving the divorced transfer case or the shifter hole just looking for something where the major stuff is simple. Any advice and info would be appreciated.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
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Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Guitar Jones] #2522751
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Easy....sort of. (ask Scratch)


Not to hijack, is it possible to make 4th gear in a NP435 more freeway friendly?

Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Hugh Jorgan] #2522825
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The 4500 is a stout transmission... and from memory has .73 OD. With the aerodynamics of a '74 PW not sure the 5.2 will like pushing that truck in OD.

If tire size is original (?29" OD) may be OK with 4.10 rear. With big tires I think the 1.00 final drive in the NP 435 will work better.

Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: ahy] #2522894
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Bigger tires? I run 9.00 x 16 (36") on my powerwagon. My rpm's are around 2000.

I would think a mid 90's dodge 5 speed would be cheapest. Not sure if it would bolt to your bell, and I think the 5 speeds use a hydraulic bell. If you are going to use the dodge computer, the crank position wheel is machined in the back of the flywheel, so you will need a 5.2 flywheel.

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Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Guitar Jones] #2522913
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Do the 46RH. The other options are expensive , and honestly more work. Anythings better than an old school "spoon in a bowl of pudding" granny gear 4 speed.

Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: ahy] #2522977
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Originally Posted By ahy
The 4500 is a stout transmission... and from memory has .73 OD. With the aerodynamics of a '74 PW not sure the 5.2 will like pushing that truck in OD.

If tire size is original (?29" OD) may be OK with 4.10 rear. With big tires I think the 1.00 final drive in the NP 435 will work better.


It's not much different then the 92 to 93 trucks and they did OK. I have stock size tires on it LT235/85R16 they are about 31" tall.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: 58pwrwgn] #2522978
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Originally Posted By 58pwrwgn
Bigger tires? I run 9.00 x 16 (36") on my powerwagon. My rpm's are around 2000.

I would think a mid 90's dodge 5 speed would be cheapest. Not sure if it would bolt to your bell, and I think the 5 speeds use a hydraulic bell. If you are going to use the dodge computer, the crank position wheel is machined in the back of the flywheel, so you will need a 5.2 flywheel.


I already have a 5.2 flywheel as I was going to keep the NP435.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Guitar Jones] #2522980
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if it has a divorced xfer. I have a 2x NV4500 granny five speed that is only a couple inches longer than the 435 4 speed.

have all the hydro clutch set up to go with it.

Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: bbtrux] #2522981
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Originally Posted By bbtrux
Do the 46RH. The other options are expensive , and honestly more work. Anythings better than an old school "spoon in a bowl of pudding" granny gear 4 speed.


laugh2 I actually don't mind the shifter and I may just keep the 435 for the time being and hold on to the auto trans and wait and see how I like it first.

Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Guitar Jones] #2522982
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also if you need a 360 fly and a good spare 435 4 speed mech bell sitting next to it.

Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: scratchnfotraction] #2522995
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Originally Posted By scratchnfotraction
also if you need a 360 fly and a good spare 435 4 speed mech bell sitting next to it.


Thanks Mike.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: NP435 to over drive trans options [Re: Guitar Jones] #2523294
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I've got a 77 crew with NP445 and married 203. I've got 4.56 gears and am seriously considering going to 3.54. but you have the advantage of divorce case.

I ran 900*16 for a year, not enough to make up the gears and rubbed the fenders.

If you insist on stick, I'd go 4500, if you're ok with auto run the 46rh. Both are fairly easy swaps.


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