Hello all. Did the 69 M-code Darts get the same kickdown linkage as the 383 Dart GTS's did. Or did it get the kickdown that the 440 B-body cars had. There is a slight difference between the two kickdowns in design. Thanks for the help.

Same as 383 Dart with longer down rod that is unique to am M-Code.

Good question, but Rhinodart should know the right answer^^^^^^

I have what appears to be an all original M-cuda under the hood and maybe taking the vertical rod that goes down to the trans out for measurement/comparison this summer. I think i have a factory 383 rod to compare it to..........

Jim, I'm a little confused on your reply. So its exactly the same as the 383 Darts in every way, or its the same as the 383 darts but with a longer down rod then the 383's had? The reason I ask is because Laysons has a repo kickdown linkage that suppose to be for 383 and 440 A-body cars. But I'm not sure if its correct.

No confusion, the 440 A-Body down rod is longer because the 440 is 3/4" raised from the 383 block, that is why the 383 is a "B" block and the 440 is an "RB" (raised B) block. Everything else is the same. A&A Transmission in Indianapolis has the correct kickdown linkage, or at least used to.

Jim, A&A only lists 383-4

http://www.aandatrans.com/Products/383-O...38314B3PAB.aspx

So if i remove my 440 vertical rod, and repo it i can make $$$$$$ LOL

Yes b-b-dave, I would buy one from you, LOL. So it looks like A&A Transmission and Layson's have pretty much the same set-up for sale. Its probably correct for 383 but not 100% accurate for 440 A-bodies. Next question. Is this longer kickdown down rod special to the 440 A-bodies only or did it come from something else,for instance a 440 C-body car?

Rhinodart is the A-body (mainly Dart) expert around......

big-block-dave. If you remove your kick down linkage this summer, from your M-code Cuda can you maybe post a picture of the down-rod for me? I would like to see its shape and also post its measurement for me. I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.

Will do.........

I talked with Dave at Carlisle this weekend, I will check my linkages too when I get a chance, take pics and measurements.

Thanks Jim. That's very much appreciated.

I dug a couple of them out today when I dropped off the trailer but didn't have time to check them out, will do it this weekend.

I'm going to bump this thread and keep it alive a little longer, cause somebody who shell remain nameless was suppose to post a pic of a kick down rod. Rhino.

I have the parts in my truck right now, just have to find the time to get the measurements. Way too much to do in the summertime...

Still waiting for pics and measurements, so another bump.

Took this picture yesterday. Top if off a 69 M-Code Dart, bottom is off a 68 383 Dart. Forgot to take measurements, though it is obvious that the M-Code is longer and is adjustable.

Many thanks Jim. That's what I needed to see. I have a down rod that looks very close to the top one in my stash of parts. Think it mite work.