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Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: GY3] #2522477
07/16/18 11:26 AM
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More proof that you were raised in a trailer.


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Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: polyspheric] #2522480
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
More proof that you were raised in a trailer.
IM TELLIN MOM!!! bawling

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Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: mcat4321] #2522539
07/16/18 01:35 PM
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I know this is not your question, but are you doing it yourself? In our area Jeff Russel is the go to guy (in case you don't know him) - he is a fellow Mopar racer. He is in Liberty Indiana so not a bad drive from Cincy.

I believe he still charges $150 to go through a 727 plus parts. He does all my trannies and 8 3/4 setups. He has never let me down and he is a straight shooter.


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: bonefish] #2522617
07/16/18 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By bonefish
if all your wanting is a mild daily driver just sell the race tranny and buy a used stock unit throw a refresh at it and call it a day up


Or simply replace the governor parts, can be done in the car.


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Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: John_Kunkel] #2522623
07/16/18 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
Originally Posted By bonefish
if all your wanting is a mild daily driver just sell the race tranny and buy a used stock unit throw a refresh at it and call it a day up


Or simply replace the governor parts, can be done in the car.


Most likely you will want to upgrade the governor to higher upshift (lighter) aftermarket pieces anyway. A&A has them.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2522750
07/16/18 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
I don't get the fascination with manual valve bodies.
Why not get a proper manual gearbox instead? 3 pedals are too confusing?



Same. Always viewed street mvb users as manual tranny wannabees.

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: BSB67] #2522760
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Originally Posted By BSB67
Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
I don't get the fascination with manual valve bodies.
Why not get a proper manual gearbox instead? 3 pedals are too confusing?



Same. Always viewed street mvb users as manual tranny wannabees.


I've ran quite a few shift kitted Trans-Go TF-2 modified 727's and was never happy with the 2-3 shift and the jankety Mopar kickdown linkage required for doing it this way. I still build quite a few for friends this way with higher upshift governors. They absolutely love them.

Personally, I can tell you that the 2-3 shift in my Cheetah mvb feels much better. In addition, I eliminated the kickdown linkage and I can start out in 2nd gear. This really helps in street race style events or where you have to use a true street radial for a class.

It's all about what you do with the car and personal taste. My car still has a clutch pedal and I considered an 833 but, for me, the 727 was much cheaper and more consistent.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: BSB67] #2522790
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Originally Posted By BSB67
Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
I don't get the fascination with manual valve bodies.
Why not get a proper manual gearbox instead? 3 pedals are too confusing?



Same. Always viewed street mvb users as manual tranny wannabees.


can you start off in 4th gear ( 1:1) like i can in third ( 1:1)?
besides, i like pushing buttons, a big funky stick would look stupid in my car.


526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!
Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: polyspheric] #2523191
07/17/18 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
I drove a street car with a converted full manual VB (Chrysler instructions, separator plate, transfer plate) in 1970.
Hated it - got pulled over many times for smoking the tires on the 1-2 shift with light throttle. Couldn't drive it on wet pavement unless the steering wheel was centered or it would loop on the shift.
Same problem with my DD now (dangerous when wet), except it retains full auto upshift and kick-down.

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Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: mcat4321] #2523433
07/18/18 03:49 AM
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Yep! Racing automatics are for sissys!

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2523595
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted By polyspheric
I drove a street car with a converted full manual VB (Chrysler instructions, separator plate, transfer plate) in 1970.
Hated it - got pulled over many times for smoking the tires on the 1-2 shift with light throttle. Couldn't drive it on wet pavement unless the steering wheel was centered or it would loop on the shift.
Same problem with my DD now (dangerous when wet), except it retains full auto upshift and kick-down.



LMAO!

There are drivers and there are steering wheel holders...


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: mcat4321] #2524379
07/20/18 04:51 AM
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I also run a manual valve body in my street car. Course I knew I would take it to the track sometimes. And myself I love driving on the street with it. I have had my 63 on the road since 2006 like that and my sons Dart since 1997 with a full reverse manual valve body. Heck I even drive slicks on the street and have been caught in the rain 3 times. Just drove nice and easy and I had no problems driving home. But you have to be smart and realize what you are driving and drive it right.

And I am not a manual trans wanna-be driver at all ( LoL) as I loved driving and racing my 4-speed 340 Dart I had years ago. But I broke a lot of driveline parts since I run my cars hard and would launch with the gas pedal going to the floor when the clutch came out. So for that reason I am very glad my 63 was an auto and I kept it that way since its much faster then my 340 four speed car was and has not broken any driveline parts so far. The auto is much easier on the drivetrain with sticky tires for sure and since my budget is very tight I am glad I have an auto I can manually shift in my 63. I would love driving it as a stick car if I could afford to put a strong driveline in it. And also with my bad knees and back the auto makes it much easier on me. But I have been a gearhead/hotrodder all my life so I love having the reverse manual valve body in my street car. Myself I would never want a normal shifting auto trans in my hotrod. Ron

Re: transission help, racecar to street car [Re: mcat4321] #2524777
07/20/18 10:08 PM
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Well said Ron. That last sentence is exactly how I feel.

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