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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/10/18 10:30 AM
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I know this is a dead horse topic, but, consider this.
When you're talking about a ten second car, that would be a slower car at a normal bracket race anymore. Take your 10 sec car and drop the rear gear to be slightly over peak at the stripe in the 8th. Get it working on the line with everything you can throw at it. Lower gearing, more tire, better shocks, whatever you need to plant it. You might find you like a shorter track better when the car plants you harder in the seat.
This way you get to launch, and pull like a much faster car, because you need nothing left for the other half of the track.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Crabra]
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07/11/18 10:12 AM
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B G Racing
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I agree with Darren,most of the guys that prefer quarter mile racing have a 10 second car or slower and most are not serious racers who participate on a regular basis.I know from personal experience that with a fast car 8 seconds and quicker a lot of things can happen real fast at 150/200+ mph that you can't react to,"especially at my age".just watch Street Outlaws,see what happens in their short races.Hang on a go for the ride and hope it ends well.Look at the top NHRA classes with all the controls and safety regulations and some of the terriable results.
Me personally, I like to be the "show" after the launch and the big wheelstand then the rest is the ride to the Dairy Queen
As far as the comment that local bracket racers not being the mainstay of the local dragstrip,I respectfully disagree.It's true the the large events bring in more revenue it also cost more to have a large event ie: advertising,paying the exhibition racers and attractions for the event,extra staff and all the other related cost.
A usual bracket day cost the owners minimal in outlay of cash since it comes from a portion of the entry fees of the racer.Also on any give bracket race there can be schudled test and tune runs and lets not forget the abundance of street cars that also race at the bracket events.These events cost a minimal amont for small staff and insurance for the day.So any smart track operator can turn a profit,if they didn't they wouldn't continue the events.Even with the downturn in the sport there are new tracks opening,old tracks refurbishing and more interesting events planned.I call BS on some information of cost as we have put on events,have had track rentals and sponsored race days over many years.So unless you actually have reached into your own pocket to pay for such events,then your info is only your "best guestimate"and you should get some real facts and insite in to our sport before screaming the "sky is falling" like Chicken Little and hide behind the barn.Negative response like political tactics and fake news can only hurt our sport like what is happening in our world today.I base my comments on facts and stand behind them based on actual experience.Respectfully Bob.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: B G Racing]
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07/11/18 10:41 PM
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1/4 mile or 1/8 mile it don't matter to me I am just happy to be alive to be able to go to the track and race or even just make tnt passes.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: dartman366]
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07/11/18 11:17 PM
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1/4 mile or 1/8 mile it don't matter to me I am just happy to be alive to be able to go to the track and race or even just make tnt passes. That's the way I feel. I like to race. I would do it even if it was 300 ft.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: B G Racing]
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07/11/18 11:23 PM
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I agree with Darren,most of the guys that prefer quarter mile racing have a 10 second car or slower and most are not serious racers who participate on a regular basis.I know from personal experience that with a fast car 8 seconds and quicker a lot of things can happen real fast at 150/200+ mph that you can't react to,"especially at my age".just watch Street Outlaws,see what happens in their short races.Hang on a go for the ride and hope it ends well.Look at the top NHRA classes with all the controls and safety regulations and some of the terriable results.
Me personally, I like to be the "show" after the launch and the big wheelstand then the rest is the ride to the Dairy Queen
As far as the comment that local bracket racers not being the mainstay of the local dragstrip,I respectfully disagree.It's true the the large events bring in more revenue it also cost more to have a large event ie: advertising,paying the exhibition racers and attractions for the event,extra staff and all the other related cost.
A usual bracket day cost the owners minimal in outlay of cash since it comes from a portion of the entry fees of the racer.Also on any give bracket race there can be schudled test and tune runs and lets not forget the abundance of street cars that also race at the bracket events.These events cost a minimal amont for small staff and insurance for the day.So any smart track operator can turn a profit,if they didn't they wouldn't continue the events.Even with the downturn in the sport there are new tracks opening,old tracks refurbishing and more interesting events planned.I call BS on some information of cost as we have put on events,have had track rentals and sponsored race days over many years.So unless you actually have reached into your own pocket to pay for such events,then your info is only your "best guestimate"and you should get some real facts and insite in to our sport before screaming the "sky is falling" like Chicken Little and hide behind the barn.Negative response like political tactics and fake news can only hurt our sport like what is happening in our world today.I base my comments on facts and stand behind them based on actual experience.Respectfully Bob. Love ya man, but those are some of the ...... comments i have ever read on here. And i have been on here forever. Yea. Most guys who have 10 sec and slower cars like 1/4 mile. Because thats what most cars are. And most people prefer 1/4 mile. Its what the sport is. I have no idea what the new Demon runs in the 1/8 mile, never heard it ever mentioned. But i have heard 9.60’s ten million times. If 1/8 was so popular with the general populace, why not 1/8 times listed on 125k dollar super cars. Reason.... they want to sell them and an 1/8 time means nothing to 98% of the people in the country I grant you, among hard core racers 1/8 is more popular. But not by much. Norwalk racers had a vote, i understand it was pretty close. And this is points racers voting.. Among all others (by far the bigger group) people could give two poops about 1/8 mile. Go to the Fri night test and tunes at our local and popular 1/4 facility and its infested by a large number of kids. Zero of them want to shut them off at half track. And there are tons of them every week. Its definately the case of the minority being louder. Is it changing, yes. Go to the Monster Mopar event in two weeks. Probably be 500 race cars there. 70-75 % of them will run 10 flat or slower. All took time off work to be there and race. To me thats dedication to a hobby. I find very little correlation to dial in and how much somebody races. Frankly, for me, its all about the extra cost of required safety equipment, containment devices, licenses, physicals, etc, etc, etc that make going 10.20 WAY more appealing to me than 9.80 or whatever. Been there, done that. Its just isnt to me worth the extra grief. Know lots of people wifh the same take on it. They love racing too. There is also the fact lots of people grow out of spending every last dime they have on a race car and forget everything else. Know lots like that. Many of them grow out of that and get more sensible and practical. Some dont And i disagree strongly that ET has much relationship as to if somebody likes to race a lot.
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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/11/18 11:31 PM
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I bet 1/8 mile tracks outnumber 1/4 mile tracks by 20 to 1. There are 7 1/8 mile tracks within 75 miles of my house.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: justinp61]
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07/12/18 12:23 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true.
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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 12:33 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true. Exactly true Don - I have Norwalk, Thompson, Quaker City and 42 all within a 1 hour and 15 minute drive from me all 1/4 mile tracks. I can go to National Trails and Keystone in about 2 hours and also 1/4 mile tracks!!! and if I head to Michigan and Indy the story continues. So for you in the South if that's all you have is 1/8 then that's what you run but up here we have plenty of 1/4 mile tracks and we all want to use every inch of them so why wouldn't we????
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 12:35 AM
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My only chance to run 1/4 mile for me is on Friday test n tune at Keystone or about once a month they have a low paying combo race. Quaker City is 1/8 mile, I went to dragway 42 and it was 1/8 mile, Norwalk is 1/8 mile, Keystone is 1/8 mile, Monster Mopar is 1/8 mile. Run a box and they pick your racing distance
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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07/12/18 12:38 AM
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My only chance to run 1/4 mile for me is on Friday test n tune at Keystone or about once a month they have a low paying combo race. Quaker City is 1/8 mile, I went to dragway 42 and it was 1/8 mile, Norwalk is 1/8 mile, Keystone is 1/8 mile, Monster Mopar is 1/8 mile. Run a box and they pick your racing distance Dont run a box. 1/2 track is like foreplay and then no... um.... you know.... lol
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: max_maniac]
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07/12/18 12:40 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true. Exactly true Don - I have Norwalk, Thompson, Quaker City and 42 all within a 1 hour and 15 minute drive from me all 1/4 mile tracks. I can go to National Trails and Keystone in about 2 hours and also 1/4 mile tracks!!! and if I head to Michigan and Indy the story continues. So for you in the South if that's all you have is 1/8 then that's what you run but up here we have plenty of 1/4 mile tracks and we all want to use every inch of them so why wouldn't we???? Lol... and them guys down South have copperheads and water moccasins and we dont up here.... they can keep them.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Crabra]
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07/12/18 12:43 AM
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We have Clay City, Beech Bend, Indy, for 1/4 and London, US60, Beacon, Ohio Valley, Bluegrass, Cumberland, Evansville, Nashville, and a few I missed that are 1/8. All within 2.5 hours.
My car will run faster (151 MPH) in the 1/8 then you can get to on the 1/4.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 01:06 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true. Exactly true Don - I have Norwalk, Thompson, Quaker City and 42 all within a 1 hour and 15 minute drive from me all 1/4 mile tracks. I can go to National Trails and Keystone in about 2 hours and also 1/4 mile tracks!!! and if I head to Michigan and Indy the story continues. So for you in the South if that's all you have is 1/8 then that's what you run but up here we have plenty of 1/4 mile tracks and we all want to use every inch of them so why wouldn't we???? Pretty sure that both 42 and Norwalk are only 1/4 for T&T. But yeah its pretty awsome to live in Ohio and have so many choices of where to run and at what distance.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 01:43 AM
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We have Clay City, Beech Bend, Indy, for 1/4 and London, US60, Beacon, Ohio Valley, Bluegrass, Cumberland, Evansville, Nashville, and a few I missed that are 1/8. All within 2.5 hours.
My car will run faster (151 MPH) in the 1/8 then you can get to on the 1/4. Unless they've changed it Beech Bend only races the 1/4 for special events and test and tune. The last time I ran their regular bracket program it was 1/8.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 01:49 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true. It's true in your part of the country, not here. I like racing period, 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile I don't care. He!! I've raced 300' on dirt and had a ball.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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07/12/18 01:51 AM
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Don come south and check your numbers on who prefers to race what. Thats because you dont have a choice most are 1/8 down there. Not the case up here. Nothing i said wasnt true. Exactly true Don - I have Norwalk, Thompson, Quaker City and 42 all within a 1 hour and 15 minute drive from me all 1/4 mile tracks. I can go to National Trails and Keystone in about 2 hours and also 1/4 mile tracks!!! and if I head to Michigan and Indy the story continues. So for you in the South if that's all you have is 1/8 then that's what you run but up here we have plenty of 1/4 mile tracks and we all want to use every inch of them so why wouldn't we???? Lol... and them guys down South have copperheads and water moccasins and we dont up here.... they can keep them. You left out rattle snakes.
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