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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: racerhog] #2516092
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I have been racing for more than 35 years and I have never made a 1/4 mile pass on a track. There are seven 1/8 mile tracks within 75 miles of my house. I have never had the urge to race 1/4. But I like racing and I would still do it if it was only 300 ft. The closest track and my favorite place to race is only 630 ft. long. I just like drag racing and test and tune.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: racerhog] #2516101
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I've said it a dozen times: A door car can survive in a sea of dragsters in the 1/8th. The areo isn't as much of a factor. Everything is super tight in the 1/8. The slow thinking racers fold up like a cheap chair, at a family reunion.

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Cab_Burge] #2516102
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
When it comes to the length of the track you need to remember that drag racing in the west side of this country was started to try and stop kids from street racing, which was stoplight to stoplight or when ever the other guy let off when he was behind work
Riverside Raceway tried 1/2 mile drags for a while, it didn't last long due to a lot of the racers blowing their motors up between the 1/4 and 1/2 mile finish line shruggy work
As far as NHRA making decisions on the lengths of the tracks, insurance costs have to come into play, same thing on most track operators also work
My current S/P car runs high fives at 115 MPH in the 1/8 mile and 9.00s at 147.+ MPH in the 1/4 mile so it spends a little over 45 % of it time in the 1/4 mile running the last 1/8 mile work shruggy
It gains right at 30 MPH in the last 1/8 mile in less than 4 seconds but goes from a dead stop to 115 MPH in 5.85 seconds in the 1/8 mile shruggy Which is more thrilling work


Its all thrilling to me. Going 147 is cooler than 115. I like the last half of the track i can enjoy the ride abd not have to shift gears, watch shiftlight, etc.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516107
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516108
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I have done both.. I just don’t like racing to the 1/8 on a 1/4 track .. nice 1/8 mile tracks are a blast


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: CMcAllister] #2516110
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
They're going to 1/8 mile because that's what guys want to run. Most of the big money brackets is 1/8. The event moves faster, less wear and tear (expense) on the car, and the car can be set up for it and left alone.


Who is “ they”?

The guys who attend those big money races constitute only a small percentage of people who go to a track. Very small percentage
They run 1/8 because that stuff got started in the South mainly where most tracks are 1/8 mile. And the guys who attend are ultra hard core and indeed do prefer it more as a business than a hobby or passion
US131 has a very well attended points bracket race season that pays well. Has forever.
Gonna guess between box and no box probably 100 guys give or take race points.
Out of those 100 guys bet there werent 15 of them that attended the 50/125/ 50 big money race held at 131 earlier this year. I watched a good bit of it. Mainly double entered hitters from all over that travel to race.


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
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1.41 best 60 foot
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516111
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One thing for sure is 1/8 mile racing is easier on the engine. Almost every engine blow up is on the top end of the 1/4. Hardly any down time with 1/8 mile and the program moves along better. I hate setting in the staging lanes. At 70 now I don't need to go 150MPH , but a little over a 100 is good.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: B3422W5] #2516130
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Some of you guys should get out more often. THEY are the racers and they have resently voted at tracks like Norwalk switch to 1/8 mile Racing for their faster classes. The 20,000.00 three day race I resently went to sold out in under 1 1/2 days (375 racers) another one sold out in 45 minutes (yes 45 minutes). Both being 1/8 mile races. If you go fast enough and love competition you too can learn to enjoy 1/8 mile Racing. Like I said before I used to hate it but now enjoy both.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516138
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At the moment my 63 Ply is parked up, I think if I had a 1/8 mile track within 1000 mile I might be still racing.
Would love a dedicated 1/8 mile track, good enough for 4-5 second cars but not that good that it is taken over by the hardcore, rich, super professional and the over serious. Just a great country feel short track that makes racing fun again.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: pittsburghracer] #2516140
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I recently raced an 1/8th mile track for the first time and actually enjoyed it! As mentioned, it's much easier on parts. I did have to go back and look at some old 1/4 mile timeslips to "translate" what the car was doing compared to past runs. It was like converting metric to standard for me! laugh2

I did find that I had run a best ever mph in the 1/8th (102mph) and wished I'd been at a 1/4 mile track to see 10's n/a. bawling


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516144
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Drag racing was ment to be 1/4 mile, nothing less. Period.

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: FastmOp] #2516145
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: racerhog] #2516147
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Originally Posted By racerhog
Operation cost's and also Keeping the entertainment within view. just my 2 cents.

But it could just be that all the low performance drives cant handle it...lol


More people watched years ago when it was all 1/4 mile than do now


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Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516150
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Done both...prefer 1/4 mile but still had fun with 1/8 mile. Definately makes you up your game running 1/8th.

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516156
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Now that Englishtown shut down,I have to travel 130 miles to the closest track.We have been pushing to open a Track on Long Island for years.
So even if an 1/8 mile track were to open I would be thrilled.I normally run the 1/4 buy look forward to Chrysler Carlisle and the 1/8 mile action at South Mountain Raceway.


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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: B3422W5] #2516157
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Originally Posted By B3422W5
Originally Posted By racerhog
Operation cost's and also Keeping the entertainment within view. just my 2 cents.

But it could just be that all the low performance drives cant handle it...lol


More people watched years ago when it was all 1/4 mile than do now


That can be said for many types of racing on many different tracks, right. That 10.5 radial outlaw stuff sure packs the crowds in. 1/8 mile too!

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516172
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As far as I am concerned drag raging is a 1/4 mile. Always has been all my life. All the road test of muscle cars was the 1/4 mile. Most of my life 5 and 6 second cars were nitro dragsters and funny cars. Sure cars are way faster today but I don't care for and never will like the 1/8 mile. I never even heard of an 1/8 mile track in my area until the early 90's. And all the tracks in my state are still 1/4 mile tracks even if they may run 1/8 mile sometimes. Ron

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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: 383man] #2516180
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Originally Posted By 383man
As far as I am concerned drag raging is a 1/4 mile. Always has been all my life. All the road test of muscle cars was the 1/4 mile. Most of my life 5 and 6 second cars were nitro dragsters and funny cars. Sure cars are way faster today but I don't care for and never will like the 1/8 mile. I never even heard of an 1/8 mile track in my area until the early 90's. And all the tracks in my state are still 1/4 mile tracks even if they may run 1/8 mile sometimes. Ron


Yep. When they advertize the new Demon, etc, they dont say it runs 6.20’s or whatever in the 1/8, they say it runs 9.60’s in the 1/4
Most people i know who go to a race as casual fans and see cars lifting at the 1/8 are dissapointed that they dont “ run the whole track”. Lots of these 1/8 mile sanctioning outfits like PDRA, etc, dont last because of it.


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Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Crabra] #2516195
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For the amount of time and money put into these cars I'd want as much track time as possible. 1/8 mile is for test and tune - 1/4 mile is for drag racing.

Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4 [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2516219
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By Crabra
I am looking for anywhere to say this.I want to know why drag racing is going to shorter distance.I say its the insurance companies and the pussification of society in general.Some things just need to be left as they were.People who race have always been thought of as silly or wierd anyway.Lets stop this before were told its too dangerous and drag racing goes away all togeather.


because there are cars going over 200mph in the eighth, on radials...
they'd be doing close to 250 in the 1/4. at those speeds, someone is going to get killed. they are also harder to stop from those speeds, because of their weight. it's also harder on parts at that power level.

how fast is your car?




So because some people over built a car for the 1/4 mile then only make it half a race since they can't handle a full race? Easier on parts and safer 1/8 mile as YOU said someone is going to get killed??? Overbuilt for the sport so change the rules --- smh

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