Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/21/18 01:55 AM
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Typical dual exhaust / dual mufflers, exit out the back.
Say I add a Y-pipe on each side, and add one more identical muffler per side (so 4 total), and so now have 4 tailpipes.
Will the new exhaust system have less backpressure and be louder, or will it have less backpressure and be quieter ? Do it and let us know AKA, what diameter is your pipes from the manifolds or header collectors to the muffs and on back to the second set of muffs? I think of exhaust systems like electric circuit, resistors in electric circuit in series restricts the flow, resistors in parallel don't increase resistance to the flow I think four muffs ran in parallel mounted at the rear bumper off of two Y pipes would flow the most and be the least noisy
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/21/18 05:08 AM
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I'd guess it would be quieter with less backpressure, the trade off is the extra weight. Likely you wouldn't see a performance increase if your system is already capable of handling your engine output.
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/21/18 09:23 AM
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I don't really feel it's necessary these days with all the muffler options and crossover pipes. An X-pipe and good set of mufflers can be pretty quiet, especially if it has tailpipes.
My 9 second DartSport had 3.5"pipes, X-pipe, Magnaflow stainless race mufflers and the pipes exited on the side right in front of the rear tires. People would tell me they thought I coasted into the staging lanes because they couldn't hear it.
My current mid 10 sec street car has 3" pipes, H-pipe, Jones stainless straight-through mufflers, and 2.5" tailpipes. It is very quiet and I love the sound. But I do have electric cutouts for fun and track time. I haven't made a pass yet with the cutouts closed.
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/21/18 10:06 AM
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I don't really feel it's necessary these days with all the muffler options and crossover pipes. An X-pipe and good set of mufflers can be pretty quiet, especially if it has tailpipes.
My 9 second DartSport had 3.5"pipes, X-pipe, Magnaflow stainless race mufflers and the pipes exited on the side right in front of the rear tires. People would tell me they thought I coasted into the staging lanes because they couldn't hear it.
My current mid 10 sec street car has 3" pipes, H-pipe, Jones stainless straight-through mufflers, and 2.5" tailpipes. It is very quiet and I love the sound. But I do have electric cutouts for fun and track time. I haven't made a pass yet with the cutouts closed. I was shocked at how quiet my car was when I first put on the 4" Hooker Max Flow mufflers. They are straight through, like a Dynomax Ultraflow, but are real quiet at idle and part throttle. I have an H pipe and dumps at the axle. Have not done a back to back test yet, but it's run real close to what it has w/ just a pair of 4" race bullets on the collectors.
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/22/18 08:57 PM
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I don't really feel it's necessary these days with all the muffler options and crossover pipes. An X-pipe and good set of mufflers can be pretty quiet, especially if it has tailpipes.
My 9 second DartSport had 3.5"pipes, X-pipe, Magnaflow stainless race mufflers and the pipes exited on the side right in front of the rear tires. People would tell me they thought I coasted into the staging lanes because they couldn't hear it.
My current mid 10 sec street car has 3" pipes, H-pipe, Jones stainless straight-through mufflers, and 2.5" tailpipes. It is very quiet and I love the sound. But I do have electric cutouts for fun and track time. I haven't made a pass yet with the cutouts closed. I was shocked at how quiet my car was when I first put on the 4" Hooker Max Flow mufflers. They are straight through, like a Dynomax Ultraflow, but are real quiet at idle and part throttle. I have an H pipe and dumps at the axle. Have not done a back to back test yet, but it's run real close to what it has w/ just a pair of 4" race bullets on the collectors. Sounds like a good setup Chip, let us know how the back to back test goes if you get time to do one.
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/22/18 09:42 PM
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I don't really feel it's necessary these days with all the muffler options and crossover pipes. An X-pipe and good set of mufflers can be pretty quiet, especially if it has tailpipes.
My 9 second DartSport had 3.5"pipes, X-pipe, Magnaflow stainless race mufflers and the pipes exited on the side right in front of the rear tires. People would tell me they thought I coasted into the staging lanes because they couldn't hear it.
My current mid 10 sec street car has 3" pipes, H-pipe, Jones stainless straight-through mufflers, and 2.5" tailpipes. It is very quiet and I love the sound. But I do have electric cutouts for fun and track time. I haven't made a pass yet with the cutouts closed. Tailpipes ending where? All the way to the bumper, behind the tire...or...??
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/23/18 08:59 AM
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CudaDoug, my 2.5" tailpipes are one inch past the back bumper with 3.5" exhaust tips.
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Re: Multiple mufflers
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06/24/18 09:48 PM
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CudaDoug, my 2.5" tailpipes are one inch past the back bumper with 3.5" exhaust tips. I was thinking of running 2.5" pipes out from my 3" mufflers to the bumper. I have 3.5" collectors to 3" pipes to 3" 2 chamber old Flowmasters. I have a new set of GIANT Dynomax super turbos that I am going to install this year. I really don't think the restriction would be that bad after the mufflers Back to the OP's question I think a small bullet resonator before the tailpipe would take the snap out of the exhaust note Gus
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