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Using Trick flow 270 heads #2507928
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Anything special when installing the 270 trick flow heads ?

what head bolts ?
Special rocker arm set up ?

What else to look for too ?

Thanks

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I ended up buying a set of Harlan Sharp rockers designed for the Trick Flo head. Don't know how bad the geometry is with a stock rocker setup - I just bit the bullet and bought the correct ones. They are at the machine shop and will hopefully get installed next week.

There was a thread on rockers for Trick Flo heads - not sure if it was in the one linked above. That is a long thread.


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rocker arm talk in that thread is around page 17, try going back a few pages as well...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2172923/17.html

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I've written a bunch of magazine articles and posted a bunch of threads on here about the 270 heads.

Bottom line is they make a bunch of power right out of the box. My pump gas 470 makes 750 hp with the 270 heads.

Yes you need some longer head bolts, rocker shaft bolts are different, pushrods need to be longer, etc. Not really a big deal.

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They make a head stud kit for them as well as head bolts. I bought the stud kit. I mocked up a set of Harland Sharp rocker arms that came off my Stage 6 heads and the roller was not even close to where it needs to be, even with lash caps, so I also bought the correct ones. Which ever version you buy plan on taking them apart and checking spring pressures, installed heights and especially coil bind. Piston valve reliefs will need to be checked to make sure you have clearance. Birdtracker

Re: Using Trick flow 270 heads [Re: Wedgeman] #2508091
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Yeah,...just kinda noticed the HS rocker geometry is awfull....wich ones did you buy....I'm shopping right now......


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I have just fitted mine .
ARP headbolt kit , I think same as Eddy Victor . ARP rocker shaft stud kit .
Summit lists all these , I bought from them .
Pushrods , mine were nearly 1" longer .
I reused my Crane gold 1.5 rockers , mock up at zero lash they were centre 1/3 of valve tip .
Valve spring pressures were dead on at height , just cleaned up up and honed guides .
Been running for a week , hope to get on chassis dyno next week .

Tex


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Finally fitted a solid cam,
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I have read almost nothing about either trick flow 240/270 that wasn’t for a magazine article. I don’t know why more people aren’t posting builds, and or results with them.

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Originally Posted By viperblue72
I have read almost nothing about either trick flow 240/270 that wasn’t for a magazine article. I don’t know why more people aren’t posting builds, and or results with them.

back to the track for me on 30th June , 1/8 racing and maybe some 1/4 testing
hopefully my results will be good . hope to see 30rwhp gain any more is a bonus

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New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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I just got my block back and am fitting stuff right now. My plan is to be running at Norwalk. Birdtracker

Re: Using Trick flow 270 heads [Re: Wedgeman] #2508106
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Whitch rocker work best for those heads?

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if you are using shaft oiling Harland Sharp. If you are using push rod oiling T&D. Birdtracker

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The HS are too long on the nose.....they sit on the outer edge of the valve tip

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Originally Posted By Wedgeman
The HS are too long on the nose.....they sit on the outer edge of the valve tip


Not if you buy the correct ones. This has all been covered before. I posted pictures, did a dyno test, wrote a magazine article, etc.

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I just got mine and they fit perfectly.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/csp-s70015ke

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Originally Posted By birdtracker
I just got mine and they fit perfectly.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/csp-s70015ke

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Those are the correct ones - same ones I have.


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Originally Posted By tex013
I have just fitted mine .
ARP headbolt kit , I think same as Eddy Victor . ARP rocker shaft stud kit .
Summit lists all these , I bought from them .
Pushrods , mine were nearly 1" longer .
I reused my Crane gold 1.5 rockers , mock up at zero lash they were centre 1/3 of valve tip .
Valve spring pressures were dead on at height , just cleaned up up and honed guides .
Been running for a week , hope to get on chassis dyno next week .

Tex


What cam you running with the golds?
I recall Andy saying the golds were on the money geometry-wise... but I'm not sure how long they will last with higher seat pressure... (running a small solid FT now...)


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Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
Originally Posted By tex013
I have just fitted mine .
ARP headbolt kit , I think same as Eddy Victor . ARP rocker shaft stud kit .
Summit lists all these , I bought from them .
Pushrods , mine were nearly 1" longer .
I reused my Crane gold 1.5 rockers , mock up at zero lash they were centre 1/3 of valve tip .
Valve spring pressures were dead on at height , just cleaned up up and honed guides .
Been running for a week , hope to get on chassis dyno next week .

Tex


What cam you running with the golds?
I recall Andy saying the golds were on the money geometry-wise... but I'm not sure how long they will last with higher seat pressure... (running a small solid FT now...)

solid flat tappet . 272/272 - .600/.600 . Used these rockers for about 10 years now . From .509 hyd to this current cam . Current cam been in 18 months .
Springs now are 138 on seat 420 inch rate , had about sam on source heads

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New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Originally Posted By tex013

solid flat tappet . 272/272 - .600/.600 . Used these rockers for about 10 years now . From .509 hyd to this current cam . Current cam been in 18 months .
Springs now are 138 on seat 420 inch rate , had about sam on source heads

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Thanks! I'm running the same rockers for a while now...~20 years. They still look like new when I pulled them off last year, so if it ain't broke I won't fix it. Looking to step up from my current ~.520 260/266 SFT when I swap heads


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I'm not using the trick flow heads, but on my Edelbrock vic MW port i used HS rockers. Great people to deal with as after talking to them i find out i could buy them in 2 different lengths. I believe i got the longer ones and geometry looked about perfect out of the box. They also told me they could drill the rockers for pushrod oiling at no extra expense. Just a heads up on a one in a million great company.

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Using TF 270 heads on a 470 build. HS 70015KE rockers-all good. Engine was built last winter after following a lot of Andy F reads. Spot on, thanks Andy. removed heads from box, checked valve seats and put back together. did install different springs to accommodate cam-280/655 roller. Push rods were measured for exact length needed. ARP stud kit for TF heads and rocker arms. Summit Valve covers-perfect fit. Put in car 3 weeks ago, got some 20+ hits on it, now tuning can begin. No dyno test, just track tuning. so far it appears to be at 750 range. They work nice.

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Originally Posted By Blang
Using TF 270 heads on a 470 build. HS 70015KE rockers-all good. Engine was built last winter after following a lot of Andy F reads. Spot on, thanks Andy. removed heads from box, checked valve seats and put back together. did install different springs to accommodate cam-280/655 roller. Push rods were measured for exact length needed. ARP stud kit for TF heads and rocker arms. Summit Valve covers-perfect fit. Put in car 3 weeks ago, got some 20+ hits on it, now tuning can begin. No dyno test, just track tuning. so far it appears to be at 750 range. They work nice.


Sounds like a good combo. 750 is exactly what I'd expect from 270 heads on a 470 with decent compression and a 280 roller cam. That should be a good engine for you, have fun at the track!

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Originally Posted By Blang
Using TF 270 heads on a 470 build. HS 70015KE rockers-all good. Engine was built last winter after following a lot of Andy F reads. Spot on, thanks Andy. removed heads from box, checked valve seats and put back together. did install different springs to accommodate cam-280/655 roller. Push rods were measured for exact length needed. ARP stud kit for TF heads and rocker arms. Summit Valve covers-perfect fit. Put in car 3 weeks ago, got some 20+ hits on it, now tuning can begin. No dyno test, just track tuning. so far it appears to be at 750 range. They work nice.


If you dont mind, some more info, track DA, car weight,et, MPH, gear, what car, compression, Thanks, Charlie


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3330# with me in it, 2245'DA,9.59@138.90, 410 gear, 30 x10.5 tire, 12:1, shift 6800rpm. 68 Barracuda, NSS class running a Modman Intake with 2-800 edelbrocks

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Originally Posted By Blang
3330# with me in it, 2245'DA,9.59@138.90, 410 gear, 30 x10.5 tire, 12:1, shift 6800rpm. 68 Barracuda, NSS class running a Modman Intake with 2-800 edelbrocks


Thank you !!! Thats AWESOME !!!!!

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Yeah. Sounds like a great combo. Dont think my 511 would run that with my edel. Mw port heads.

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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Yeah. Sounds like a great combo. Dont think my 511 would run that with my edel. Mw port heads.


Why not, I'm in the mid 9's and 6-teens w/standard port RPM'S ported by yours truly............. whistling AND with a baby 470 to boot......... thumbs

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You sure would think so, but im comparing it to my sb with my butt meter and i will be surprised if it goes into the 9's.

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Reading this thread is making me wish i would have went with the 270's. Sounds like a much nicer cylinder head.

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