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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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From what I can tell there is no source for Mopar restoration batteries at this time.
After difficulty getting through to them, I ordered a group 24 from Antique Auto Battery in early March and have yet to see it. They said they were made to order, and took around 8 weeks to fill an order. I've had no updates since, but it doesn't look like they have charged my credit card either at least!
Turbostart posted recently on E-bodies.org they are working on selling Mopar restoration batteries again, but they don't have a firm date as to when they will be available.
They said to watch their Facebook page for updates, but I am not on Facebook.
I'm probably going to gut a dead yellow cap battery I have and install a small battery inside it, as I have lost patience trying to get a battery!
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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From what I can tell there is no source for Mopar restoration batteries at this time.
After difficulty getting through to them, I ordered a group 24 from Antique Auto Battery in early March and have yet to see it. They said they were made to order, and took around 8 weeks to fill an order. I've had no updates since, but it doesn't look like they have charged my credit card either at least!
Turbostart posted recently on E-bodies.org they are working on selling Mopar restoration batteries again, but they don't have a firm date as to when they will be available.
They said to watch their Facebook page for updates, but I am not on Facebook.
I'm probably going to gut a dead yellow cap battery I have and install a small battery inside it, as I have lost patience trying to get a battery!
I also ordered a group 27 battery with yellow caps in Late March from Antique Auto Battery...they did not take my credit card # at the time but said they would contact me when it was ready...well I heard nothing and like others on this web site it appeared that AAB was/had gone out of business. Well low and behold I receive a call about a week ago from the AAB local number and it is a young woman asking me if I still want to take delivery of the battery I ordered back in March...she tells me that AAB has changed hands and is now called “Jim’s Battery”. I agreed to pay for it and only hope I did not just get scammed.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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I got sick of paying the big dollars for the stock look only to get a two years each out of the last two I bought. I have gutted 3 now & hide a lightweight racing battery inside. Actually even cranks over faster than the repro batteries did and still looks stock from the top. Also goes from like 46 lbs down to about 12 lbs if weight matters to anyone.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
[Re: moparjohn]
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I got a group, 27 red cap in January with the wrong caps and haven't heard of any one getting one since. Antique Auto batteries
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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I just got an email from them saying Deloris had retired, and they are now called Jim's. They have an older order from me and want to know if I am still interested. This gives me hope that I have not been scammed and might get my battery....once it arrives, the old one gets the odyssey trick and I will never have to do this agian
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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Please keep us up on this since your local to the supplier.
I'd like to know with Jim running the place now the time from order to delivery. It sounds like he does not keep any inventory on the cases which would cause extra time?
Thanks! MJ
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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Please keep us up on this since your local to the supplier.
I'd like to know with Jim running the place now the time from order to delivery. It sounds like he does not keep any inventory on the cases which would cause extra time?
Thanks! MJ Will do. Going to try again Friday morning.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
[Re: moparjohn]
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Just called them this morning now that they are up and running and explained to him the battery I received from the previous owners had incorrect red caps. He said the proper ones would be mailed out today, they had a back order on the right ones at the time. I fully expected to hear not my problem but they took care of me! A note with the battery that the proper caps would follow would have been nice but they were retiring and probably didn't care.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
[Re: moparjohn]
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I don't see a group 27 battery with red caps listed on their site?
What was the cost for the battery and what type of warranty with the new owner? Thanks for keeping us updated on your purchase!
MJ They have them just ask.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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Interesting find. I went to change the caps out on my battery and noticed cables inside and with a closer look there is a battery in the battery. I could have done that and it explains why the battery is so much lighter. I'm going to call Monday and get the skinny, it had better be one hell of a battery for what I paid.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
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My last one was an AGM and I dug it all out as well. I wasn't sold on the extra cable connections is why I ordered a new battery just to get what I already had done.
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Re: Supplier for 1969 group 27 red cap Mopar restoration battery
[Re: moparjohn]
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Hey that looks familiar. Nice job. Yeah, I have another dead core here to gut for my next project car someday. I may even do it for the trunk of my race car just for the "Mopar" look still.
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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I contacted Turbostart thru their website. I emailed them earlier this year and the person that got back to me said late 2018 or early 2019. They should update their site with info, but they don't. They list the batteries but say Out of Stock. Wait and see game. https://turbostart.com/
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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If anyone is looking for a nice looking dead red cap to complete the conversion on.......I can make you a good deal. PM for details. Joe
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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Has anyone purchased a red-cap battery this year?
Who has them? The last info I've read over on the A12 Registry was on the last page of this thread link from member TURBOSTART http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1484102345/45#45Turbostart Re: Yellow cap MOPAR battery recommendation Reply #45 - 03/18/19 at 10:47:05 We are making the yellow, red and green battery again . I have read a lot on this post and AAB puts smaller batteries inside of there batteries . we will be making the correct CCA Batteries . Ours are AGM batteries, however I'm reading where you guys are being able to change the caps out to different colors. ours will be glued in so you cant change them and we do that to keep a good seal. Thanks guys hope this helps
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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There is a yellow cap Mopar battery on ebay. It is supposed to be NOS.
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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I don't think the one on Ebay is an NOS one as I heard originals had 4 holes in the vent caps not one like the repros had.
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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I don't think the one on Ebay is an NOS one as I heard originals had 4 MORE holes in the vent caps not JUST one like the repros had. Spot on fuelishnsilly  Mike an original from a first gen Charger survivor (red cap) versus the ebay claimed nos yellow cap. (hate posting this, afraid a future seller may modify the cap with five holes but if the do there's something else on the cap (and battery) they can't modify that I'm not telling or posting......so there 
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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A12,
Ok, so I was wrong. Looks like it was 5 holes instead of 4 like I had heard someone say at one point. Do I get any points for being close? lol
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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A12,
Ok, so I was wrong. Looks like it was 5 holes instead of 4 like I had heard someone say at one point. Do I get any points for being close? lol Originally meant to be Posted by fuelishnsilly I don't think the one on Ebay is an NOS one as I heard originals had 4 MORE holes in the vent caps not JUST one like the repros had.   Mike
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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So I bought Joes ( 70gtx440dana ) dead battery.
The thing that got my interest was that the caps were not glued on!
Joe also told me that when he removed the caps it looked red inside?
My thinking was maybe it's a battery in a battery?
So today I started working on this battery shown in my fist picture.
My second picture shows the battery with the caps removed.
I also saw the red down inside there?
I found a seam where the battery was put together.
I started tapping it along this seam and it finally popped open!
I have it shown in my third picture.
The battery case had cracked where the top was glued on.
But it was low enough not to show when reassembled.
Now we can see what the red was from!
Two small batteries wired together and then to the terminals.
I couldn't get the batteries loose so I had to cut the bottom out.
I show the batteries out in my last picture.
To be continued!
MJ
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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So now I removed my PC925 from my other battery that has glued on caps and attached the cables from the lid of this one.
I show that in my first picture.
Then I got some Styrofoam and made some padding to hold the pc925 in place.
That is my second picture.
I got it all back together and ready to install!
Shown in the third picture.
The last picture shows it installed in my Superbird with the caps off!
When you look inside on this one you see the side of the PC925 and it's black and looks good in there!
I wanted one that looked more correct and now I have it!
Thanks JOE!
If anyone out there has another dead red cap group 27 with removable caps I would like to get another.
Send me a pm here or at: moparjohn@frontier.com
MJ
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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So now I removed my PC925 from my other battery that has glued on caps and attached the cables from the lid of this one.
I show that in my first picture.
Then I got some Styrofoam and made some padding to hold the pc925 in place.
That is my second picture.
I got it all back together and ready to install!
Shown in the third picture.
The last picture shows it installed in my Superbird with the caps off!
When you look inside on this one you see the side of the PC925 and it's black and looks good in there!
I wanted one that looked more correct and now I have it!
Thanks JOE!
If anyone out there has another dead red cap group 27 with removable caps I would like to get another.
Send me a pm here or at: moparjohn@frontier.com
MJ John, Glad I could help out. If I had known it would be so easy I would have done it myself. I had seen the other posts where guys had spent hours carving out a donor for the conversion. Did not want to deal with that. Take care! Joe
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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Joe,
It's not as easy as I made it look in pictures!
That first one that I carved out was a pain!
But I learned a lot from that one and wouldn't do another one of those!
But I am curious as to how those 2 motorcycle batteries started your car and how long did they last?
Thanks again!
MJ
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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Seeing that we're on gutted battery projects, I recently cut open my AGM Turbostart gas mat repro battery (group 27) to set it up for a battery within a battery senario (I had gotten 11 yrs of service from it, not bad!), I cut the top of the battery off, leaving the bottom intact, I cut it off where it looked like it was seamed, my end result will be to have the bottom section of the group 27 act like a battery box to contain the hidden battery as well as shield it should it leak/gas out/vent, thus saving my engine compartment from any mess, I plan on attaching the top of the group 27 to the hidden battery with a mechanical buss attachment rather than cables, the battery hold down will act as a hold down to not only retain the dummy group 27, but secure the surgically altered top to the base/box as well....
here's what the gas mat repro batteries look like inside for those interested ...
Mike
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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Joe,
It's not as easy as I made it look in pictures!
That first one that I carved out was a pain!
But I learned a lot from that one and wouldn't do another one of those!
But I am curious as to how those 2 motorcycle batteries started your car and how long did they last?
Thanks again!
MJ John, I picked up the battery second hand from a guy whom decided to restomod his 71 RR after originally restoring it. I believe he used the battery 2-3 years and I used if for 3 seasons. So it lasted approximately 6 years. I must say i did not maintain a charge as well as I could have during the off season. I may have a gotten another season or two out of it with proper maintenance.
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Re: AGM TURBO START BATTERIES
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Seeing that we're on gutted battery projects, I recently cut open my AGM Turbostart gas mat repro battery (group 27) to set it up for a battery within a battery senario (I had gotten 11 yrs of service from it, not bad!), I cut the top of the battery off, leaving the bottom intact, I cut it off where it looked like it was seamed, my end result will be to have the bottom section of the group 27 act like a battery box to contain the hidden battery as well as shield it should it leak/gas out/vent, thus saving my engine compartment from any mess, I plan on attaching the top of the group 27 to the hidden battery with a mechanical buss attachment rather than cables, the battery hold down will act as a hold down to not only retain the dummy group 27, but secure the surgically altered top to the base/box as well....
here's what the gas mat repro batteries look like inside for those interested ...
Mike Mike, I you still have the top as it was cut off could you post a picture looking at the bottom or inside? It looks like cutting the top off makes it a lot easier to remove the cells from the bottom! It took me a long time to carve the cells out piece by piece from the bottom! Thanks! John
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