Gen 2 Hemi
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05/27/18 02:18 AM
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Doing an inspection on my 605” Hemi street/strip car. Have about 3000 miles on the motor. Anything I should look for? Hemi valve train is like jewelry for gear heads.
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!!
1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas
1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads,
1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E
1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor
Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/29/18 01:58 PM
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Just the normal stuff. Look down in the lifter valley with a flashlight the best you can for anything that looks wrong. Look at the pushrod tips for heat discoloration. Spin the pushrods with your fingers to see if they're bent. Look for broke valve springs. Sometimes these are hard to see. Make sure the valve seals haven't rose up off the guide. Retorque the rocker shaft bolts. (If yours are 5/16" it's 22 ft lbs. If they are 11/32" it's 30 ft lbs.) The rocker plate bolt torque is 50 ft lbs. Spin/look at the rocker roller tips. You can retorque the heads if you want to.
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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Pink stripes on the springs?
That's usually K-Motion.
Any idea what part number the springs are?
If they're H-11 material, I'd be leary of them after 3000 street miles.
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/29/18 03:37 PM
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Thank you for the input guys. Great ideas. I have a little bore camera I can use to see in the valley with. I don’t know much about the motor. This is why I’m concerned. It does have a billet crank, Oliver rods and JE pistons in a KB block with jesel belt drive so I’m assuming the lifters (solid roller) and other parts are good quality also.
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!!
1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas
1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads,
1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E
1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor
Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/29/18 04:47 PM
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Hey, your rockers are better than mine. You have the red rockers. LOL. Nice though, I like it.
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1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/29/18 06:27 PM
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Hey, your rockers are better than mine. You have the red rockers. LOL. Nice though, I like it. Yours are very nice!!!
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!!
1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas
1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads,
1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E
1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor
Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/30/18 12:38 AM
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Is there a difference between the colors on design? Mine are burgundy. I don’t believe there is a difference. I think Barton just anodized them different colors.
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!!
1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas
1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads,
1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E
1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor
Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/30/18 10:44 AM
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Just the normal stuff. Look down in the lifter valley with a flashlight the best you can for anything that looks wrong. Look at the pushrod tips for heat discoloration. Spin the pushrods with your fingers to see if they're bent. Look for broke valve springs. Sometimes these are hard to see. Make sure the valve seals haven't rose up off the guide. Retorque the rocker shaft bolts. (If yours are 5/16" it's 22 ft lbs. If they are 11/32" it's 30 ft lbs.) The rocker plate bolt torque is 50 ft lbs. Spin/look at the rocker roller tips. You can retorque the heads if you want to.  That's all I do whenever I have the covers off once or twice a year to check the valve lash. When you decide to freshen it up, you'll most likely find the guide clearance is sloppy now. Unless the geometry on the Barton rocker system is a big enough improvement over the stock style stuff that they don't kill valveguides as bad. I have KB stands and DLI roller rockers on mine.
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: Gen 2 Hemi
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05/30/18 01:36 PM
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Is there a difference between the colors on design? Mine are burgundy. I don’t believe there is a difference. I think Barton just anodized them different colors. Colors may be a way to determine ratio's? Mine are 1.6 int / 1.6 exh if it matters. (or maybe it is just different batch or years they make them? As one of my buddies said I only bought the blue rockers because they matched my car. LOL. (I didn't know they were going to be blue).
Last edited by 6PKRTSE; 05/30/18 01:37 PM.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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