Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/14/18 03:11 PM
04/14/18 03:11 PM
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Cab_Burge
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I don't worry much about the left to right misalignment positioning of the motor due to the tranny U joint needing misalignment for it to work properly on the needles bearings, if it is off some it makes the needle inside move and rotate more. As far as the angle of the carb flange on the intake manifold that changes a tiny bit when you climb into the car, doesn't it It is really nice to get as close to as you want it as possible so you are happy with your work
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 04/14/18 03:11 PM.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/19/18 08:30 PM
04/19/18 08:30 PM
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bad day: Willwood drag brakes ( rear ) hat is only set up for 1/2 studs. I call them, tell them i ordered it for 5/8 studs and gave them my axle register info, hat register is much larger.
They tell me they dont make a hat with 5/8 studs, have to be drilled. I ask what bit to use to have correct tolerances- they don"t know> Ask about the register issues- they don't know, its a universal hat.
I wait an hour, call back, i'm told you cannot drill the hats and they don't make any for 5/8 studs and dont know why a 5/8 stud has a 11/16 shank anyway.
Idiots!!
Weld wheels- ordered for 5/8 studs. What do i get, rims for 1/2 inch, what am I told- drill them. Idiots!
why place an order , take my order and not say anything?
Will never purchase anything else from Willwood or Weld again- EVER.
So, I drill one hat to 11/16 knowing dang well its not going to allow enough clearance and, sure enough, too tight. Done on drill press/centered- but axle stud locating just isn't that accurate . Anyone know what size bit is proper to drill these stupid things and not have them sloppy ?
Thanks, One mad Texan.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: AndyF]
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04/19/18 08:49 PM
04/19/18 08:49 PM
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I was watching TV last night and they built an entire race car in one show. Dang those boys on TV are fast. Not only that. They never sweat or bloody a knuckle
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/19/18 10:13 PM
04/19/18 10:13 PM
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when I bought my weld wheels they came with holes for 5/8 stud's and you had to use a lug nut with a shank that fits the wheel for alignment when using a 1/2 stud,, 11/16 hole should be god's plenty of clearance to fit a 5/8 stud, if you are using a standard drill bit,then it is walking around and making the hole oblong and probably won't be on center, need to find a 4 flute core drill that has a flute at every 45 degrees for more support, it's hard to make an accurate hole size with only two points of contact and nothing to keep it supported between them when you have a starting hole that big.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: AndyF]
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04/19/18 10:28 PM
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Studs are new Strange units , shanks are 11/16 dead on. Thread ends are 5/8. I ordered them to be long enough on the shank for the brake hat , weld wheel center sections, then I have to spacer/washer, then the 15/16's nut. These are Mark Williams axles so- should be straight on hole bores/spacing.
Hell, I can order anything for a freaking Chevrolet and it fits- no problems. Nothing for the Mopars has fit other than engine/transmission internals and your parts- literally nothing else has fit/ worked- period.
I have 14k worth of parts sitting here and so far- nothing but pure hell and these "Race Parts" companies don't have help any different than Autozone.
I take that back- all of Strange's stuff has fit/worked properly.
I guess im just going to eat the one hat, send everything Wilwood back and by Strange or something. I simply cannot keep working 12-14 hr days and not getting 6 hours of real work done.
I put a whole new suspension- front and rear, tubulars, anti squat , disks etc on this 65 chevy truck in a day and a half-every piece was correct, everything fit as expected.
Freaking Mopar Major suppliers are useless .
arrgghh
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/19/18 10:44 PM
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run a reamer thru the holes, I had to do this after using the 1/2 studs with the shank style lug nut's and they swelled the holes in the wheels slightly,I used the moroso 5/8 stud kit,,strange has brake hats that will fit 5/8 studs kit, at least mine did, I really like mine, I bought the complete front and rear kit including the matching master cylander.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/19/18 11:20 PM
04/19/18 11:20 PM
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AndyF
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Hell, I can order anything for a freaking Chevrolet and it fits- no problems. Nothing for the Mopars has fit other than engine/transmission internals and your parts- literally nothing else has fit/ worked- period.
The only reason I started making parts was because I got tired of buying garbage from Mopar Performance and Hamburger and other Mopar suppliers. I got sick of paying good money for crap that I had to re-machine before it would fit.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/20/18 12:42 AM
04/20/18 12:42 AM
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Agreed Andy : It’s horrible out here. I appreciate the thoughtfulness and accuracy of the parts we have gotten from you. I forgot to mention the Gerst front suspension did fit like a glove- no issues at all and Carl Gerst is just one of those “ jewels “ of a guy. I think everyone here would like him .
I’m just really frustrated and - sorry I vented here. I have a very low tolerance for what goes on with these parts suppliers . Too many people just reading screens. Tech support that seems it couldn’t open a coke can without a screen shot, don’t know thief products and- my favorite - getting different answers to the same questions from different people at the same company .
Our time ,,, matters.
Yep- I’m old. I came up when customer support was king, knowing product was important, returning phone calls was important and not doing so , well, you didn’t want to get called into the office over that.
Tradecraft, accuracy , problem solving - these things were important.
Ok- Rant over. I will work problems to solutions tomorrow, pick up the type drill bit mentioned. Set up a dial indicator and make sure I don’t have a problem at the axle end .
I will win.
I have 5 mopars sitting here to build after this one, one more may be on the way. Hopefully by the time I get to the next one- I will have parts pipeline figured out better, know where the land mines are and how to navigate them.
Once again: I can’t say enough how much I appreciate the Moparts community.
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Re: 72 duster
[Re: RustyM]
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04/20/18 01:00 AM
04/20/18 01:00 AM
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CMcAllister
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Wheels are made for 1/2" shank style nuts which are a few thou under 11/16" diameter in the shank. A little honing or fitting is usually required. I usually get them to fit snug at first since they will loosen up some with use and I don't want them sloppy loose. Typically I'll use a stud to fit each hole rather than trying to fit 5 at a time. I suppose another option is to turn a few thou from the stud.
Last edited by CMcAllister; 04/20/18 01:32 AM.
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