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#2484024 - 04/17/18 01:03 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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Another shot from 1977. Second row, 7th car from left with the guys standing by the trunk.


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#2484046 - 04/17/18 03:21 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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Love the aero pinto in that pic.

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#2484055 - 04/17/18 06:18 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: EV2Bird]
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#2484090 - 04/17/18 08:24 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: chargervert]
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Definitely needs the license plate SR71... work
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#2484111 - 04/17/18 09:06 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: OhioMopar]
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
There was a black Super Bird in "Dazed and Confused" at the restaurant they cruised around.


I remember that one! Here's the only pic of it I can find:



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#2484139 - 04/17/18 10:03 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: Aero426]
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Originally Posted By Aero426
Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER


In my opinion, any factory race car should be white as in "body in white" including 1/4 milers (WOs & BOs) or factory NASCAR AERO cars (Talladega, Cyclone 2, Charger 500, Superbird.) White is right!



For the sake of discussion, "body in white" refers only to a bare unserialized, unfinished body shell, less seam sealers and final paint. It has nothing to do with the color white, although it may have primer of some kind. These are real bodies in white arriving at Holman-Moody waiting to become. (Nice Talladega you have there.)


Seems like the terminology was changed by Chrysler around the Fall of 1970.The word 'White' is crossed out.


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#2484313 - 04/17/18 04:15 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: Aero426]
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Originally Posted By Aero426
Another shot from 1977. Second row, 7th car from left with the guys standing by the trunk.


HOLY CRAP......CAR VIRTUALLY UNCHANGED
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#2484370 - 04/17/18 07:03 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: Aero426]
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Originally Posted By Aero426
Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER


In my opinion, any factory race car should be white as in "body in white" including 1/4 milers (WOs & BOs) or factory NASCAR AERO cars (Talladega, Cyclone 2, Charger 500, Superbird.) White is right!



For the sake of discussion, "body in white" refers only to a bare unserialized, unfinished body shell, less seam sealers and final paint. It has nothing to do with the color white, although it may have primer of some kind. These are real bodies in white arriving at Holman-Moody waiting to become. (Nice Talladega you have there.)


Great picture Aero426! The inside of my Talladega fenders are stamped "Holman Moody". My Gurney Spoiler II fenders have no stamping. Wonder where those were made.


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#2484441 - 04/17/18 10:00 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER


Great picture Aero426! The inside of my Talladega fenders are stamped "Holman Moody". My Gurney Spoiler II fenders have no stamping. Wonder where those were made.


I had a Gurney S2 for 29 years. Had to make a hard choice several years ago. Still stings just a little. Been restored since and am hoping to see it at the reunion at Talladega next year.


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#2484567 - 04/18/18 09:47 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER
Originally Posted By BS27R1B
Factory race cars were white


Exactly my point.


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#2484597 - 04/18/18 11:02 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: Satilite73]
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Originally Posted By Satilite73
I wonder how far apart they took the car when they did the color change? While not the most detailed pics in the ad, there is no hint of white anywhere in the pics shown. I just can't imagine a 7 year old car getting blown apart for paint, especially back then.

shruggy


That's what I'm wondering. Color changes are really hard to do right. Most guys don't want to to strip everything out and apart to do a good job of it. I imagine a lot of flaking paint hidden. I don't think the value would have been high enough in the mid 70's for a guy to go all-out in it but who knows.

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#2484923 - 04/18/18 11:34 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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Is it sitting in the same driveway as the vintage pic?
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#2485279 - 04/19/18 07:24 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: BigMoneyLewis]
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I really like it. I think it should pull about 100K. The wheel lip molding are the only things that look out of place to me, but they go nicely with the wheels. I really dig those vintage pics too. Thanks for posting!

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#2485687 - 04/20/18 03:06 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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I like the car but I'd never pay that much for it. Of course if everyone was me the world wouldn't have Starbucks since I'll never pay $5 for a cup of coffee either.........

I might be willing to pay $30K or $40K for that car at the bottom of the next recession though.


Edited by AndyF (04/20/18 03:07 PM)

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#2485689 - 04/20/18 03:14 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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That is some really sunny stuff right there. LMFAO

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#2485702 - 04/20/18 03:57 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: NANKET]
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Just got an e-mail from the owner, the car is sold .

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#2485753 - 04/20/18 06:04 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: ngpSatellite]
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Dr. Wolf in Jackson Ms. bought a Superbird from the local oval track when they closed back in the day. He had it painted just like that car. The race track had used the car up pretty good and the repaint was necessary. After some years had passed he sold it to a private collector in Georgia. That makes me wonder? I thought the black looked awesome back then ..
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#2485761 - 04/20/18 06:17 PM Re: Black Superbird [Re: JEJJ]
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"do you think the color change hurts the value??"



Originally Posted By JEJJ
Just got an e-mail from the owner, the car is sold .



8 days. smirk

I rest my case.

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#2486356 - Yesterday at 10:17 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: Grizzly]
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Originally Posted By Grizzly
"do you think the color change hurts the value??"



Originally Posted By JEJJ
Just got an e-mail from the owner, the car is sold .



8 days. smirk

I rest my case.



6 days actually. The car was sold on Thursday. More details on that coming smile

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#2486386 - Yesterday at 11:11 AM Re: Black Superbird [Re: JEJJ]
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Originally Posted By JEJJ
Just got an e-mail from the owner, the car is sold .


Sold, but for how much? shruggy

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