Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/15/18 06:43 PM
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Sonny welcome aboard. (fasten your seat belt!). See if Andys 440 manifesto is in the archives. EDIT I looked & saw the 451 manifesto which ain't it but someone will point you to it plus offer more info on your Q.
Last edited by RapidRobert; 04/15/18 06:46 PM.
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/15/18 08:00 PM
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Mopar used the same casting numbers on the 440 blocks from 1966 to late 1971 blocks. Starting in early 1972 they changed the casting numbers on the 440 passenger car motors only, HD, industrial and marine motors weren't changed The main thing you need to know about is if that motor is internally balanced or externally balanced If the seller doesn't know see if the crankshaft balancer has a oblong external ring around it or not, if it does it means it is externally balanced and that balancer should say for 440 motors cast into it If it doesn't have a balancer like that and does NOT shake when running up through 5000 RPM then it is probably internally balanced, The bad thing about externally balanced Mopar V8 is Mopar used external weights on both ends of the crankshaft on the flywheel or converter with weights welded onto the converters Please let us know what you find out
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 01:13 AM
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If it’s priced right snag it. Check to your comfort level.
Unfortunately when you go to sell that car people will get all twisted up, contorted, and maybe have seizures when they find out you put a bad year, off year, or whatever they call it block in it. Because that matters a lot. Just talk to joe average. He’ll tell you. Can’t do that. Not allowed. Against rules. Nope.
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 02:19 AM
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if the crankshaft balancer has a oblong external ring around it or not, if it does it means it is externally balanced and that balancer should say for 440 motors cast into it Edit Cab Should say "CAST CRANK ONLY"
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 02:51 AM
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if the crankshaft balancer has a oblong external ring around it or not, if it does it means it is externally balanced and that balancer should say for 440 motors cast into it Edit Cab Should say "CAST CRANK ONLY" Not always, the 1970/71 forged steel crankshaft HP motors with the big heavy six pack rods didn't have that written, cast, on them with that external cast in weight
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 11:39 AM
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Can a pistons proximity to zero deck be determined without pulling off a head and measuring? The thought of a Six Pack on top of smogger dogger type pistons makes me sad.
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 01:09 PM
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A bore scope can help you determine the pistons, dished or flat tops, there might even be a part number on top of pistons that can be seen. I think it would be worth a try.
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 03:06 PM
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In my opinion, all years 440 blocks are just fine unless you have a blower, 3-stages of nitrous, etc. with more than maybe 600-650 horsepower. Also, 74+ blocks use a larger lip on the center main bearing which is preferred, but not required.
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Re: 440 Engine Block best production years!
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04/16/18 07:34 PM
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Can a pistons proximity to zero deck be determined without pulling off a head and measuring? The thought of a Six Pack on top of smogger dogger type pistons makes me sad. Why ... a "six pack" is just a 2 bbl motor until the vacuum kicks in the outboard carbs. And unless you plan to race the thing , who cares if its down on power a bit.
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